--- braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Now this is a nice post that someone can respond to, which I'll do > > Yes, I tink everyone goes through that process when > experiences are > discussed. Though, to my memory, few have been > discussed recently and > none have been criticized. Thus the puzzlement about > Peter's and Jim's > recent assertions this morning. The assertions seem > like old snakes > rattling round in the cage, memories of some past > scars, not current > events. I get your point. But I still see some of the recent posts as implicitly hostile. > > It is a quandry when someone speaks of their > Enlightenment Experience, > and it doesn't ring true. It does present a problem. Where do you start to respond! I like Dana Sawyer's post regarding my posts regarding enlightenment experiences in another newsgroup. He said I was lying. I loved it! > Or simply garbles up some > apparently > internalized advaitaspeak. That does nothing to > further knowledge and > understanding. Agree > > Politeness and kindness move one towards no comment, > just stone > silence. Not wanting to even raise quite polite and > civil points > because they are often backlashed with chilly > responses, not on the > point of inquiry, but why the questioner is > personally fucked up, > angry, resentful and/or hostile. I find it difficult to talk to someone who is simultaneously being insulting. We've gone a few rounds with this, Aksha, and can't see eye-to-eye on it. We respect one another but will always get stuck on this I'm-not-angry-yes-you-are point. When you back off what I see as aggression-and you see as playful banter, I respond. > > And yet, silence can at times, by some, be > interpreted as acquiesence, > a mild support for what is said. And in cases where > blather exists, > the blather continues. > > I ask the opposite, and inverted, question of > Peter's: why not more > questioning of experience postings? Not hostility > and personal > attacks. Those are tedious, immature and silly. But > it appears fair, > productive, even noble, and certainly part of the > spirit of this list > to ask for clarification of experiences. And to > raise other points of > view. To contrast one's own experience or those of > others with the > Experience poster's. And to discuss how some > traditions view such an > experience -- which may not always be "the highest > of all things" -- > and may deflate a sensitive and insecure poster a > bit. Absolutely. There's no problem talking about experiences at all. I don't see anyone as getting deflated due to sensitivity. I just don't enjoy the personal aggression (I know, I know) because another agenda is being played out. I'd rather talk about what we're talking about! > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Does he tell you he loves you when he hits you? > Abuse. Narrated by Halle Berry. > http://us.click.yahoo.com/hemMeA/rbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Does he tell you he loves you when he hits you? Abuse. Narrated by Halle Berry. http://us.click.yahoo.com/HcoraC/rbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
