--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dare I mention leap years, leap centuries and leap seconds?
The issue is whether the vernal equinox will occur in September 13,000 years from now (or whether it *was* in September 13,000 years ago). > --- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > If you have a cogent argument as to why you believe it is not, > > > > please post. (Just saying it is eternally in March is not a > cogent > > > > argument. :) ) > > > > > > No, but it has the advantage of being a fact. > > > > > > Just take it as a given that > > > > > while the constellation > > > the sun is in on the vernal equinox changes due to the > > > precession of the equinoxes, the date of the vernal > > > equinox itself does not change-- > > > > I am sorry judy. That is just not true. As the sun moves from the > > beginning of one constallation to another, its a new month. Go > through > > 6 constallations in 13000 years and the vernal equinox has moved 6 > months. > > > > > it's always around > > > March 20--and then work backward, and you yourself will > > > be able to discover whatever it is that isn't quite > > > right in your mental model. > > > > Simple read the 8 points in my prior post you will > > be able to discover whatever it is that isn't quite > > right in your mental model. > > > > > > 1) vernal equinox occurs once a year when day and night lengths are > > equal and when the sun rises at true east. > > > > 2) "precesion of the equinox" means that the position of the sun at > > the vernal equinox, relative to the constallations, "retreats" one > > degree every 72 years, making a full cycle around the zodiac > > of 12 constellations every 26000 years. > > > > 3) Even with precession of the equinox, from an earth view, the sun > > will always rise at due east at the vernal equinox, thus the > > precession does not effect orientations of buildings to true east or > > the path of the sun relative to buildings (from a year of > observations > > starting at the vernal equinox.) > > > > 4) The precession - the postion of the sun at vernal equinox -- > > travels through each constellation about every 26000/12 = 2160 > years. > > In 60 BC, the sun at vernal equinox was just on the cusp of Aires > > moving into Pisces. Around 2100, the the postion of the sun at > vernal > > equinox will move from Pisces to Aquarius (aka the "age of > aquarius"). > > > > 5) The sun annually transits 360 degree , a full "circle" around the > > constellations. Each month roughly corresponds to the suns position > in > > each constallation. > > > > 6) In summer months, the hemisphere one habitats is closer to the > sun > > (due to its 23.5 degree tilt -- relative to its "eleptic" path > around > > the sun). Thus in summer it is warmer and days are longer. In Winter > > the hemisphere is further from the sun, thus its colder and days are > > shorter. At the equinoxes, matched longitudes in each hemishperes > are > > the same distance from the sun. Day and night are each 12 hours. > > > > 7) The precession - the postion of the sun at vernal equinox -- > > travels to its opposite constallation every 13000 years. In 13000 > > years, the postion of the sun at vernal equinox will be in Virgo, > 180 > > degrees from its present position in Pisces. > > > > 8) When the sun is in virgo, around September, the tilt of the earth > > relative to its path around the sun gives fall weather for the > > northern hemisphere, and spring weather in the southern hemisphere. > > > > 9) Thus, in 13000 years the vernal equinox will be in September, > fall > > weather will prevail for the northern hemisphere, and spring weather > > will be in the southern hemisphere. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
