--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

First this:

> Ok...you can go back to arguing about whose techniques
> and belief systems are "best" now. I just wanted to
> correct your misstatement of what I've said.

Not my involvment, you know very well.


> Just a couple of points:

<snip>

> You seem to have missed the posts in which I mentioned
> that the techniques I'm talking about are *not* mindfulness,
> which IMO definitely has a specific intent. In the techniques
> I'm talking about, there is no intent and nothing to focus
> on. It's merely a process of just *noticing* what is already
> going on, *not* focusing on it or directing it in any way. 
> Nothing is "induced," nothing focused upon; 

Sorry to disagree, but the instruction 'to notice something' is
certainly directing awareness. It most certainly is an induction as
well. As the 'attention' is directed, it is also a form of
mindfulness, maybe a rather easy one. 

> the only instruc-
> tion is along the lines of "notice what is going on rather 
> than distract yourself from it."

Yes, but it directs awareness. The instruction 'not to distract
yourself from it', indeed uses subtle effort.
 
> The instruction is needed only because most people in the 
> world *do* distract themselves from what is going on inside
> them and around them, constantly. 

That's why meditation is needed.

> The point of this simple 
> technique is that there is a value in not doing so.

Sure. I don't disgard it at all. But whatever Vac said about TM is
applicable there also.








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