--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], defenders_of_bhakti > <no_reply@> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "hyperbolicgeometry" > > > <hyperbolicgeometry@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ---Effortless or not (nothing in the world is "absolutely" > > > > effortless btw); the key point is Transcendental awareness. > > > > If it (pure Consciousness, Self-awareness), occurs for you > > > > regardless of the amount of effort, excellent. > > > > > > Yup. This whole tempest in a teapot is about a few > > > TMers feeling panicky because they're realizing that > > > the simplistic portrayal of TM as 'effortless' isn't > > > quite true. > > > > But an approximation. And as such not bad. > > Agreed. Not bad *at all*. *Especially* as compared > to forms of concentration. But I get the feeling > that some people aren't willing to live with TM's > "effortlessness" being an approximation of effort- > lessness. They want the dogma they've clung to for > so many decades to be TRUE, DAMNIT, even if that > involves pushing square pegs into round holes and > ignoring direct quotes from Maharishi. It would > be funny if the vibe surrounding it weren't so > desperate.
Except that this is your *fantasy*, Barry, once again, at least in my case. It's not "dogma," it's personal experience. And not only have I not ignored the quotes from MMY, I've asked explicitly several times for more context so we could see what he was actually talking about. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
