--- In [email protected], anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], anony_sleuth_ff 
<no_reply@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > haha, I just noticed -- within 4 days, a less than 50% 
increase 
> > > in 
> > > > AMR
> > > > > puts volume was cited as resulting in almost a tripling in 
> > > comparing
> > > > > daily averages (4x vs 11x). Thus, either they are using bad 
> > > data, OR
> > > > > they are using a different interval of days to calculate 
daily
> > > > > averages for sept 6 and sept 10. Which is totally bogus. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or simply using THAT day's average. Thats crap as far as 
seeing 
> > > if 
> > > > > the figures are statistically "abnormal". The daily average 
> > > should 
> > > > > be calculated over at least 30 trading days, better, over a 
> > > year. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The figures were sliced, diced and cherry picked.
> > > > 
> > > > Whatever the problems with the figures in this specific
> > > > article, suspicious trading prior to 9/11 was *very*
> > > > widely reported in the major news media.  The 9/11
> > > > commission even investigated it, concluding there were
> > > > "innocuous" explanations, but without saying what they
> > > > were.  I believe the SEC investigated also, but did not
> > > > release a report.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm astonished that so many of you weren't aware that
> > > > this was a major concern after the attacks.  It isn't
> > > > just something the conspiracy theorists dreamed up.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, I was well aware of it, as I've written.
> > > 
> > > But big deal, Judy.  Why did YOU make such a big deal of it in 
the 
> > > context of what we were discussing?
> > > 
> > > Like I said before, the terrorists would have been idiots if 
they 
> > > didn't take advantage of the insider trader knowledge of the 
> > attacks 
> > > and speculate accordingly.
> > > 
> > > Hey, do you guys have any idea how much you could have made on 
> > > Google's approximately 100 point drop in its stock price 
earlier 
> > > this year had you bought put options at the right time?
> > > 
> > > A $5,000 investment could have turned into about $8 million in 
> > about 
> > > a month.  Now, THAT'S the power of put options!
> > >
> > 
> > The real question you should be asking is: if it was the 
terrorists, 
> > why wasn't this made clear in subsequent investigations?
> > 
> > The answer should be obvious: either no windfall profits (or 
whatever 
> > you call stock options trading) were actually made, or the 
terrorists 
> > were found NOT to be theones doing it.
> > 
> > If the latter case, my guess would be that several government-
related 
> > investments were made, probably by various Saudi royals, and it 
was 
> > too big a scandal to let that become public knowledge, even 
though 
> > the Saudis cleaned house within a few months with various royal 
> > cousins suddenly being lost in the desert and so on.
> 
> 
> haha
> 
> yes,many angles to the insider knowldge thing. 
> 
> The premise  I gather from judy's weak hypothesis is that Bush
> administration insiders profited from "insider" a la advanced
> knowleedge of 9/11.  Thats a hardsell IMO.

I never advanced such a hypothesis.  *Somebody*
profited from insider information about the attacks,
however, and that's what needs to be determined: Who?

> First, A) one needs to show that ANYONE profited from advanced
> knowledge of 9/11.

That isn't in question.

> Second, Judy needs to show that it was not (only)
> saudi royal/rich, al-qauda insiders, other middle eastern
> power/knowledge brokers that profited from "A", but also 
> specifically Bush admin insiders. A very hard sell.

Um, why do I need to show that?  My whole *point* was
that it has never been determined who made the trades.






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