--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same as > > > > what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't report > > > > transcending during TM until after-the-fact, this is hardly > > > > surprising... > > > > > > It'd probably depend on what *style* of shamatha you were doing. > > > For ex. there is a form of shamatha that traces the seed > > > syllable back to it's source--silence--much like TM. > > > > TM *can* do this. Is this the goal of this style of meditation, > > or is it merely a description of an idealized outcome? > > It's just one of the styles of shamatha, that's all--the beginning > part.
That wasn't the question. Lawson specified that it was one of the styles. He's asking if what you describe is (a) the *goal* of this style, or (b) a potential outcome. In other words, is "tracing the seed syllable back to its source" a PREscription, or a DEscription? > Don't get so stuck in your paradigm. Why are you so reluctant to answer the queston? It's a pretty simple one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
