Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies

[Vaj]

On Jun 10, 2006, at 10:30 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 10, 2006, at 3:47 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: [...] Different beings, in different dimensions of existence will also experience the same phenomenon differently. A traditional example given would be of a river which a human would see as something to drink, fish would see as their home and gods would see as nectar (etc., etc.). Skip Alexander likened it to Piaget's Congitive Stages. What seems   logical in a more advanced stage seems completely magical and/or illogical in a prior   stage and no amount of intellectual analysis and explanation by the more advanced-stage   person will adequaely explain/convince the prior-stage person of the validity of the   advanced stage reasoning -- the brain structures simply do not exist to allow this to happen. You simply CANNOT explain volume conservation to a kid who is too   young to understand. Even if you demonstrate the principle in front of a kid   using two different sized glasses, the kid will say something like "it's a trick!" --I   did. Yes, precisely my point--although I see nowadays thinkers like Wilbur   are in agreement to some positive things about Piaget while at the   same time pointing out his limitations. Wilber seems to like Skip's work, BTW. Actually him and Skip were in intimate communication up to his untimely death. His work "The Eye of Spirit : An Integral Vision for a World Gone Slightly Mad" (Wilber talks of different "eyes": the eye of flesh, the eye of contemplation (our meditational "eye") and the eye of spirit, the "eye" of pervasive unity) has sections which talk of Skip's work. Interestingly KW also shares my own opinion that GC in Skip's/MMY's model of "higher states of consciousness" is not truly a "state", but a "stage". In fact, in the source texts that the "7 states of consciosness" derive from, it is not seen as a sequence...  In more recent comment, Ken is back-pedaling on his opinion of TM research.  __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___