"And also regarding getting escorted out, were those that this happened to respectful? Just curious, because we'd be treated similarly in any company meeting if openly challenging a CEO disrespecfully- not making any assumptions here, just gethering info. Thanks"
You make a good point here. Controlling the room is something Bush does too and I'll bet seeing Trump personally isn't easy if you are a skeptic. That did not prove my point. The question becomes, does he claim to be enlightened. I vote "yes". " Just because he said he was enlightened, why did > they believe it?" This is a deep point. I'm sure you know all about Lifton's perspective. That is my guess. My conscious rational mind was not functioning properly. Plus I believe the darshon experience is real and powerful. I just do not believe the traditional interpretation of what it means. People who saw Mao described the experience in similar terms of people's description of personal contact with a master. I don't believe it was because he was a radiator of pure being. It may just be one of those mental experiences that had an evolutionary value when not deferring to the alpha chimp could mean death. Just a guess. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > "This is a frequent mistake people make, *assuming* that Maharishi > > > [or another guru] is enlightened (I think psychologists refer to > > > this phenomenon as transference), and then based on that > assumption, > > > interpret what Maharishi says as true, often misintepreting and > > > misunderstanding what the guru says." > > > > I am pretty sure we got this idea about his state from him. I > don't > > think it is assumptive on our part. If you treat him in any way > other > > then as " enlightened master" you are quickly escorted out of the > > room. It is not assumed, it is enforced. > > I can't say, never met him, except once in a dream and that doesn't > count. My point above was the *assumption* that many (all?) of his > followers make. Just because he said he was enlightened, why did > they believe it? > > And also regarding getting escorted out, were those that this > happened to respectful? Just curious, because we'd be treated > similarly in any company meeting if openly challenging a CEO > disrespecfully- not making any assumptions here, just gethering > info. Thanks > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/