--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 7:43 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Good points. This one interested me the most: > >>> > >>> "rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely > >>> beyond science." > >>> > >>> It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I > >>> think Sam Harris would claim that when it talks about how the > >>> world "is" mysticism enters the field where logic does apply. You > >>> mentioned that Schroedinger is a physicist, a world class one at > >>> that from what I understand. But Physics is a field driven by math > >>> skills and I don't think that gives him a leg up on this kind of > >>> discussion over say...you or Chopra. It is all speculation about > >>> life. He leaves his credibility in his own field far behind on these > >>> topics. Because you have gained something from it, I will spend > >>> some more time thinking about it. > >>> > >> > >> Curtis you might enjoy the following brief talk with Ken Wilber where > >> he answers the question "does quantum physics prove god?" where he > >> rather elegantly explains that the quantum state is not unmanifest > >> spirit/brahman/the tao/PC. Interesting talk. Not so interesting for > >> the TM quantum mysticism, but rather embarrassing. I think by > >> extension you could conclude that a mysticism based on Quantum > >> physics is pretty bad mysticism... > >> > >> It's on page two: > >> > >> http://www.kenwilber.com/professional/media/index.html > >> > >> > > > > And how would he know? > > Uh, he's a physicist and a mystic? >
He said he studied QM in college for his grad degree in biology and "mystic" is a rather broad term. I wouldn't term him a mystic in the TM sense of being enlightened. Not when he talks about the need to be able to focus on objects for 5 minutes non-stop in order to progress to higher practices... ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
