--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > Well, I may not be enlightened, but due to Maharishi's techniques I > > have had experiences of the universe that I could not possibly have > > through any other way that I know of(except maybe brain damaging > > drugs). And, my direct experience, entirely as a result of his > > techniques, is that the world we play in is like flotsam floating on > > a vast ocean of very intensified bliss energy. It is so powerful, > > and it is just below the surface of things, and it threatens to > > burst into, and overflow our universe at any time. Such an event > > would be so powerful that everyone would be transformed in a matter > > of minutes. It would be like the magma under the surface of the > > Earth, bursting out and flowing all over the surface...only it would > > not be fire, but bliss. I believe this cataclysm is only years, > > maybe a few decades away, at most. This is not what I "learned" from > > Maharishi, but my direct and very common experience. It is physical, > > spiritual, and real. > > > > OffWorld > > > > You experience a lot of bliss and ascribe it to be possible only > through the techniques that MMY has brought out, mainly because those > techniques are the only ones you have seriously dedicated yourself to > practise. > I too experience a lot of bliss in a similar way that you describe, > but I don't ascribe it solely due to the basic very simple TM > technique that is the only technique I have learned through the TMO > and only practised for half a year, as it was taught. Most people who > have learned this simple technique have benefited very little from it.
And you go so far as to violate a solemn promise you made just so you can teach something that people can benefit very little from? BTW, how do you know that people have benefited very little from it? > So it cannot be just the technique. For some reason you give MMY > credit for something much bigger in which bringing out some simple > techniques plays just a minor role. Why? Why do you say that this is so anyway? > > But MMY's role for the values you have adopted is much bigger through > the belief system you have adopted from him. That is: all we need is > enough bliss to transform and enlighten the whole world. The TMO has > been trying to force it to happen. Trying to force one's belief system > to become reality is called fundamentalism. But it won't become > reality, because reality doesn't obey you. In there being more bliss > now many different sources have been playing an important role. The > TMO is just one of them. According to my understanding an enlightened > person could give appreciation to them all. > > Bliss solving all the problems is a belief of your's and MMY's, not > the reality. And trying to force more bliss to appear has got the TMO > to resort to the principle `end justify means'. This principle usually > goes together with forcing and manipulation, and often causes more > harm than good. > Bliss is not all that is needed to transform the world. It is one > ingredient, but not sufficient alone. Sure it is. Bliss is based on the functioning of the nervous system. Change the nervous system in the right way and you transform a person. Transform enough people and you transform the world, whether or not the Maharishi Effect works or not. Seeing it being all that is > needed is MMY's biggest fallacy. It has justified him dishonest > behaviour, because for him how his mind operates doesn't matter, only > bliss matters. His thinking has probably gone in the following routes: > "Because I'm bringing to the world this absolute bliss, I'm beyond the > karmic consequences of my gross level behaviour. It is allowed for me > just to make a powerful impression and manipulate people following me. > When the bliss transforms the world, I too will be automatically > purified.What I now do behind the curtains doesn't really matter." > Maybe not on the big cosmic scale. He is too small a speck there. But > for his personal evolution it certainly does, and karma he cannot > escape.Accepting one's defects and being open with them is in itself > transformative. Pretending to be something one is not, even if it > happens in the name of a higher good, is degenerative. This is easy > to see to be true also for MMY. > He has been a messenger boy and brought something important to the > west, as have many other teachers. And many people have benefited from > his teachings in spite of its weaknesses. I thought you said m ost people didn't benefit from TM> Which is it? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/