--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good point.  Of course none of this matters to people who do the
> > > > practice and like it.  The larger question of what this brain 
> > > > activity "means" is pretty wide opened from what I understand.  
> > > > TM has taken a position of advocacy here.  Other scientists may 
> > > > be more cautious. 
> > > 
> > > I think a point that many of the TBs miss is that
> > > they've been *told* that "coherence" in the brain
> > > actually means something, and means "something good
> > > is happening." 
> > > 
> > > The problem with "TM science" is that the researchers
> > > set out to find something that proves TM or the siddhis
> > > are good. They *start* with an assumption, and then
> > > they try to find something -- anything -- that supports
> > > that assumption. So they hook a few people up and they
> > > find some things they call "coherence." And because
> > > they *are* looking for soemthing -- anything -- they
> > > declare "coherence" to be important. They *have* to
> > > find *something*, otherwise they won't get any strokes
> > > from Maharishi. And the whole *point* of performing
> > > the research is to get strokes from Maharishi.
> > 
> > Two points.
> > 
> > First, "coherence" has been a TM buzzword since before
> > there *were* any studies of EEG coherence.
> > 
> > Second, the purported importance of brain-wave coherence
> > is hardly an idea peculiar to TM, as you'll find if you
> > Google the term while excluding "TM," "Transcendental
> > Meditation," and "Maharishi."  It's quite well defined
> > and not difficult to recognize.  There are companies
> > making money selling devices and systems that are said
> > to generate brain-wave coherence and institutes that do
> > research on its benefits.  There have been articles in
> > the press about how playing video games increases brain-
> > wave coherence.  As Lawson has pointed out, enhancing
> > brain-wave coherence is said to be a potent remedy for
> > ADD.
> > 
> > You'll find brain-wave coherence touted as beneficial
> > on both spiritual and scientific sites which are
> > entirely unrelated to TM.
> > 
> > In other words, your assumptions above, and hence your
> > conclusions, are entirely *factually* erroneous.
> > 
> > But don't let that stop you from promoting them.  Unlike
> > the TMO, *you* get to say whatever damn fool things you
> > want with zero accountability.
> >
> 
> And the Scientific American article I mentioned a week or two ago
specifically says that 
> brain wave coherence is something that seperates the brains of
higher-order critters like 
> primates and mammals from lower order ones. 

haha. And yet the top article on google scholar search for BWC was
about BWC in monkeys.

>The higher on the evolutionary scale, at 
> least in the human perspective (where we're the highest), the more
often EEG coherence 
> shows up. The explanation is that it apparently shows that larger
brain structures are 
> involved in problem solving.

Like Global Climate Change, Social Security and the Middle East. 
Monekys don't have (or create) such problems.






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