--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > Turq,
> > 
> > Yeah, that was amazing. What were the chances that I would find a
> > quote of Doug Birx using the exact terminology that Spraig and Judy
> > insisted was proof that I never understood the teaching properly! 
> > Judy failed the test but I still have hope that Spraig,who started
> > this nonsense, will step up and do the right thing.
> 
> Curtis, it was you who failed the test.  Your quotes
> from Birx were a red herring, a non sequitur, an
> irrelevancy.  You know it and I know it, and anybody
> who actually thinks about it for a few minutes would
> know it.
> 
> All the quotes in the world won't change the fact of
> what MMY teaches: During meditation, you do *not*
> value the experience of transcending more highly than
> any other experience.  At least not if you're
> practicing TM.
> 
> Remember, you *confirmed* this when Sparaig pointed
> it out to you.
>

It's an interesting thing. he's tried to make it sound like he meant the 
process of 
transcending, but the process of transcending is the entire process of TM: 
there's an 
"inner stroke" and an "outer stroke" and occassionally a noteable pause 
inbetween.

There's only 3 ways he could have meant "value of transcending": the value of 
the inward 
stroke,  the value of the pause (samadhi), or the value of the entire process 
(TM).


If he meant the 3rd, then  why not just say "value of TM," i.e., TM isn't all 
that great. 

If he meant either of the first two, as you and I both assumed (and I still do 
despite his 
claims otherwise), then he is missing the boat.











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