--- In [email protected], bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can't figure out why everybody (everybody?) is
> > > > getting their panties in a bunch over this. If the TMO
> > > > thinks that someone is not doing the official TM
> > > > program in the dome they don't want them to be there.
> > > > Is that what people are freaking over or am I missing
> > > > something?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > ************
> > > 
> > > I think Rick is saying that the diksha thing does not apply 
> during 
> > > meditation time, but is a laying on of hands thing that is used 
> > post-
> > > meditation, so it would be funny for National to justify banning 
> > > somebody from the dome because they would not be doing TM during 
> > their 
> > > dome time. 
> > > 
> > > It's a bogus issue to me either way, because if TMers are 
> supposed 
> > to 
> > > be producing such a powerful influence of coherence, then a few 
> > people 
> > > not on the same wavelength would be insignificant, just the like 
> > the 
> > > many sleepers or drowsy people in the dome are not an important 
> > > influence one way or the other.
> > > 
> > > I remember when I used to do group meditation at the TM center 
> on 
> > > campus, many of the Chinese and Indian students who did not 
> > practice 
> > > TM were nevertheless required to attend the twice daily 
> sessions, 
> > and 
> > > some of them would listen to radios, most would sleep. Didn't 
> make 
> > any 
> > > difference to me, although I thought it was stupid to require 
> > people 
> > > to show up for something they had no interest in.
> > >
> > 
> 
> 
> > How and why would students be at MIU and NOT be meditators?  I'm 
> > confused...
> 
> ****************
> 
> MIU used to give students from poor countries free-ride 
> scholarships, and many students who had zero chance of getting a 
> college education otherwise, took MIU up on their free ride offer. 
> Many of those foreign students displayed no interest in TM, but 
> there were also a few American students whose parents had sent them 
> to MIU because the parents were strong meditators and/or the kid had 
> a drug/behavior problem and they were hoping to sort him out, but 
> the kid had no interest in TM.
> 
> MUM no longer hands out free-ride scholarships, as they discovered 
> that foreign computer science students who come here to get a 
> master's degree could work at full pay in the US for a couple years 
> without a big visa hassle for them or employers, giving them the 
> money to pay MUM's full tuition ($25K -- 
> http://www.mum.edu/compro/fafaqs.html ), which has put MUM on a very 
> good financial footing, since it only pays low volunteer-wage rates, 
> even to faculty. In order to cut down on the number of computer 
> science students who have zero interest in TM, students from Nepal 
> and Ethiopia are required to practice TM for six months before being 
> accepted into the master's program:
> 
> http://www.mum.edu/compro/steps.html
> 
> Whether this cuts down on the percentage of students who are only 
> playing along with MUM, pretending to do TM, I'm not sure. Probably 
> not, as there a lot of students in these poor countries who will do 
> or say anything to get into the US and work at our pay scales, while 
> taking a master's degree and current work experience at US 
> corporations back to their home countries.
>

The new spiritual progress report card (or whatever its called) may be an 
atempt to get 
people to meditate who aren't otherwise interested.







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