--- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> MMY is on record as advocating freedom from the restrictions of the 
> binding power of speech. I am sympathetic with anyone who attempts
> to reconcile his various statements about mantras, the effects of 
> meditation, the genesis of TM, et al.

And perhaps you have some examples of inconsistencies
with regard to what he has said about mantras?

I would guess that by advocating "freedom from the
restrictions of the binding power of speech," MMY is
referring to the fact that a good deal of spiritual
knowledge can only be roughly approximated in words.
It's another way of saying "The map is not the
territory."

If you get too attached or "bound" to words, you 
can create serious misunderstanding.  Just as one
example, take the Catholic Mass: you can describe
it quite accurately as a ritual in which Catholics
believe they are eating the flesh and drinking the
blood of Christ.  But if you attach yourself to
those words alone, you would have good reason to
assume that Catholicism is a cannibalistic religion
--a very "restricted" view.

And even when you go deeply into the theology of
the Mass, such that the idea of cannibalism is shown
to be absurd, the very innermost core of it is said
to be "a mystery": transsubstantiation, or how the
bread actually *becomes* Christ's flesh and the wine
his blood--the mechanism not being reducible to words.

To truly know what the Mass is to a devout Catholic
you must free yourself from "the restrictions of the
binding power of speech."

With regard to the relationship between the bija
mantras and Hindu deities, to say they're the
"names of gods" is pretty much the comic-book
version, and a very primitive comic book at that,
akin to thinking of the Catholic Mass as a
cannibalistic ritual.

There *is* a relationship, but it's vastly more
abstract than "names of gods" would suggest.

Just to hint at the very tippy-top of the iceberg,
bear in mind that in MMY's teaching, (1) "gods" is a
term that refers ultimately to laws of nature,
elemental forces of the manifest universe; and (2)
these laws of nature are said to be inherent in
one's own consciousness.

Another (related) idea is that of rishi-devata-
chhandas, the Knower, the process of knowing, and
that which is known.

The gods, or "devas," are in that context *processes
of knowing*, the means by which that which is known
comes into being--which could also be described
as laws of nature.  (This is the source of the
notion that "You create your own reality"--but as
usually understood, that's also a comic-book version.)

One might say that the bija mantras are abstract
sounds that embody the devas (as opposed to their
*names*--Shiva, Lakshmi, and so on), in the nama-
and-rupa, "name"-and-form, formulation.  "Name" as
a translation of "nama" is misleading in this
context.

If the bija mantras are devas in this sense, and
devas are processes of knowing, what is it we are
doing with them in meditation?

The mantra is the object of attention, or chhandas,
that which is known, as we use it in meditation.  But
the mantra is also deva, or process of knowing--in
other words, attention itself.  So in putting the
attention on the mantra, we are, in effect, 
mantra-ing the mantra.

No wonder it tends to become more and more subtle
and then disappear!

<snip>
> > > 'When he devotes himself and meditates on the name and form
> > > (NAMA AND RUPA) of the LORD, he begins to experience some 
> > > ANANDAM and also the Grace of the Lord in every walk of life. 
> > > This experience of Peace and Anandam is Sadhana. And Sadhana 
> > > naturally increases his devotion to God and makes him more and 
> > > more attached to Him. Thus he develops intensity of Raga for 
> > > the ISHTAM. Gradually, this final Raga goes on increasing and 
> > > this increase of Raga and Love for the ISHTAM enables the
> > > Grihastha to feel the presence of his 'ISHTAM' always with 
> > > him, in all his ways of life, in all his thought, speech and 
> > > action.'

If you think about it, the above is another way of
describing the development of enlightenment through
TM.  Just as the "seven states of consciousness" TMers
are taught here is the comic-book version of
enlightenment for Westerners, the above is the
comic-book version of enlightement for devout Hindus.

I don't mean to use "comic book" as a term of derision
here.  It's just meant to suggest a necessary 
simplification and concretization of something that is
virtually infinitely more abstract.

But if you get hung up on "the binding power of
speech," you may be unable to loosen your
understanding so as to begin to encompass the
abstractions that underlie the speech.






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