--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > I assume that the moderators (Rick, Alex, and > > > > whoever) can tell what a poster's real address > > > > is behind their Yahoo address. I hereby give > > > > them permission to "bust" me publicly here if > > > > their resources show that I (TurquoiseB/Barry) > > > > am the same poster as Geezerfreak. > > > > > > Actually, Barry, I can't see your email or IP address because you > > > config'd your subscription with the "Hide my email and IP > address from > > > the group moderators" option. And, I don't think Rick, the group > > > owner, can see them either. I did look up geezerfreak's IP, and > it's > > > an AOL IP. I googled the newest post I could find by Uncle > Tantra on > > > a.m.t (Apr 25 2005), and it originated from out-of.ilog.fr > > > > > > > Of course, logically speaking, Barry could simply write messages > to a > > friend in the states who posts them under a yahoo name barry set > up. > > > > But the "energy signiture" appears quite different between the > two. An > > obvious thing Jim appears to have missed. Normally, no harm, no > foul. > > > > But for Jim, who has made (it appears to me) quite definitive and > > fully-confident observations based on his ability to clearly > > distinguish "energy-signitures" of different people, or to "look at > > them a certainway" virtually --not in person -- and "gain specific > > knowledge" of them, as well as the ~"only WE can recognize each > other" > > phenomenon, it perhaps is significant that his foo foo raydar is > > malfunctioning in the case of Barry and Gezzerfreak. Makes you > wonder, > > could it also be malfunctioning in other confident observations of > his? > > > > Not to pick-on or focus on Jim, but (mis)interpreting ones > abilities, > > experiences and states is a key issue /hurrdle, IMO. This is one > of a > > number of examples posted, periodically, where the interpretation > does > > not fit the circumstances, though to the observer they really > [really] > > seem to. > > > > Thus, perhaps,the value of a Guru who has lived the Supreme state > for > > 30-40 years, has seen many false claims and false starts, to > > verify and label experiences, and not to solely rely on co- > dependent > > praises from "a circle of friends." [Termed a "circle jerk" by one > wag".] > > > > As to states of consciousness that Barry brought up, on the > surface, > > there appears little connection to the ability to distinguish two > > posters -- and the state of ones consciousness. > > > > Unless, if one claims they have special knowledge, insights and > > abilities that stem from their "Enlightenment" -- however defined - > - > > and these special abilities are shown to be only imaginations, > then it > > does cast some shadows on claims of total Enlightenment. And/or the > > persons correct interpretation of what they experience. > > > > Now, if you recall the question I asked of you awhile back, please > name just one person on the entire planet today who is enlightened. > Just one. > > It is clear you have doubts about my claim to be enlightened. So put > me aside for the time being. Please name one enlightened person on > the planet today. Just one. >
MMY defines fully mature Unity as ability to perform all sidhis without benefit of practicing a sutra. I don't believe anyone is in that state today, if ever there was someone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
