--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > MMY defines fully mature Unity as ability to perform all sidhis
> > without benefit of practicing 
> > > a sutra. I don't believe anyone is in that state today, if ever
> > there was someone.
> > 
> > 
> > That is one of my points. And there is a long thread on this about 
> a
> > month ago. As some (Judy, for example) pointed out,and I agree, its
> > virtually a truism that to claim MMY/TMO style of enlightenment, h
> one
> > needs to fulfill TMO/MMY" criteria. Its so obvious, its hard to
> > believe that some dispute this almost "identity" statement, 
> like "A=A". 
> 
> You must have forgotten my assertion that there is no such thing 
> as "MMY/TMO style of enlightenment". 

This just gets stranger and stranger. Unless you are playing
sematically games, or simply don't get the concept that MMY has
defined specific attributes of what he means by enlightenemnt, UC and BC.

It would be fascinating to hear you at the mic and tell MMY that
"there is no such thing as the enlightenemnt, UC or BC that you have
been talking about all these years." 

and then add, 

"but I Jim, am truly enlightened, but its not your non-existent
enlightenment."

and then add, 

"I was talking to Guru Dev about this the other day. He told me .. and
also told me to tell you ..."

I hope they that exchange on HiDef.


> 
> Following the logic you are using, SSRS must have achieved SSRS 
> style enlightenment, Mother Meera must have achieved Mother Meera 
> style enlightenment, Amma must have achieved Amma style 
> enlightenment, Maharishi must have achieved Maharishi style 
> enlightenment, and finally Guru Dev must have achieved Guru Dev 
> style enlightenment.

No. You are using goofy Jim style logic.

>    
> Continuing with your logic, 

No, continuing with your delusions, responding to stuff in your head,
not what is on the page. No innocence of view. And you wonder why I
don't jump and down at your proclamations.

  







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