On Nov 29, 2006, at 3:57 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:48 PM, kaladevi93 wrote:
If I follow what you've been saying over the years, you are simply
saying both the Hindu
tantric meditation systems and the Buddhist ones both share
techniques to perfect the
fourth pranayama--a subtle pranayama important for deep meditation
and deep samadhi.
And therefore it doesn't matter if it's one or the other, but you
should be able to practice it
if you know what you are talking about. And most TM people have no
clue about these
higher practices which seems so key to that (deep) type of practice.
Knowing that, you'd have to be surprised when you see their
research and that this deeper
meditation is not occurring even after many years of repetition,
rounding, etc.
It really seems painfully obvious.
Yes, you got it. I'm glad what I'm saying does come through, thanks.
So where is the research on samadhi and enlightenment using other
meditation
techniques?
Where it has always been: in the student/teacher relationship and the
laboratory of the student's consciousness. In real retreat centers
everywhere. I hope they're not afraid of experimenting and just going
for it.
Oh yeah, and some people are doing research. Big deal.