On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:

Yup. And that of dozens of my friends and hundreds
of people within the traditions I have studied.
They have actually *had* the experience of realization,
unlike some traditions that can only talk about it in
theory and come up with excuses for why *their* students
*don't* have the experience itself.

"Your nervous system isn't pure enough yet. You need to
'purify.' Just keep paying us the money we ask for and
keep coming to these courses. Someday you'll be pure
enough to experience what you already are."

Yeah, right.


A "turning" in the seat of consciousness doesn't depend on a purification of a nervous system or certain brain wave styles or even a transcending mind.

It's like Nike says "Just do it". No "doer" required. Ego still optional. May not be available in some areas, but is present everywhere, at all times. ;-)

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