--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > > > Turq's description seems closer to an intellectual argument > > > presented to those practicing more of a mindfulness technique > > > while remaining in the waking state, so the challenge is > > > constantly to the waking state ego, stated in terms of the > > > waking state ego. Without the unwinding that continual > > > transcending brings about, this technique seems most useful > > > if practiced in direct proximity to an enlightened Master. > > > Otherwise, there is no opportunity for the required > > > purification to take place in order to experience > > > Realization. > > > > No "purification" is required to experience realization. > > Realization is present at every moment and has always > > been present at every moment of one's life. There was > > no moment in which one was ever *not* realized. > > > > Not realizing one's enlightenment is a choice, not a > > matter of a "clogged" or "impure" nervous system. > > > > IMO, of course. Your mileage may vary. > > And your evidence for this is... > > Your own "experience?"
Yup. And that of dozens of my friends and hundreds of people within the traditions I have studied. They have actually *had* the experience of realization, unlike some traditions that can only talk about it in theory and come up with excuses for why *their* students *don't* have the experience itself. "Your nervous system isn't pure enough yet. You need to 'purify.' Just keep paying us the money we ask for and keep coming to these courses. Someday you'll be pure enough to experience what you already are." Yeah, right.
