---Vaj, but this is the "initial" stage, ...even from the POV of your Guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, complete, continuous realization requires at least, time and abundant practice. Perhaps Norbu is missing an important point regarding bodily purification; and...I contend, MMY's fund of knowledge on the topic of Realization is superior to Norbu's. This is not a case of "my Guru is superior to yours". Just look at the facts.
In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Yup. And that of dozens of my friends and hundreds > > of people within the traditions I have studied. > > They have actually *had* the experience of realization, > > unlike some traditions that can only talk about it in > > theory and come up with excuses for why *their* students > > *don't* have the experience itself. > > > > "Your nervous system isn't pure enough yet. You need to > > 'purify.' Just keep paying us the money we ask for and > > keep coming to these courses. Someday you'll be pure > > enough to experience what you already are." > > > > Yeah, right. > > > A "turning" in the seat of consciousness doesn't depend on a > purification of a nervous system or certain brain wave styles or even > a transcending mind. > > It's like Nike says "Just do it". No "doer" required. Ego still > optional. May not be available in some areas, but is present > everywhere, at all times. ;-) >
