--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> While I'm not a great fan of Maharishi it is my understanding that TM > was not taught by Guru Dev but that it was given to Maharishi by him. Even MMY does not actually say this literally. MMY speaks of guru dev as the inspiration for tm much as he speaks of guru dev as the inspiration behind most every project the tmo has come up with. guru dev himself did not teach tm meditation according to other disciples in his ashram. And MMY changed the technique of tm many times over the yrs, starting off with only the mantra Ram and then changing to bija mantras and then changing the criteria for selecting mantras over the yrs, so what exactly was it he was taught by guru dev, and why did he not go out and teach it immediately? > I can't deny my own experience. > > I am a TM teacher who has directly experienced Guru Dev during TM > initiations and otherwise. I know of at least 7 other people, three of > them TM initiators who have said they also have experienced Guru Dev > directly. By experiencing Guru Dev directly, I mean in visual form, > auditory communication [telepathic] form, or even in changes in Guru > Dev's facial expression in a revered photo of Guru Dev. > > It has also been taught to TM teachers [as it was at my TTC] that A > TMer's spiritual teacher and link to the Absolute is indeed Guru Dev > and not Maharishi or the TM initiator. > > Whether or not Dr. Varma's account is accurate, my own repeated > undeniable experience clearly indicates that Guru Dev is directly > involved in not only the TM initiation as the direct object of > attention in the Puja and the sponsorship for the initiate to > transcend, but that he is also involved as one's spiritual Guru as a > TMer - whether one is actively aware of it or not. I'm curious to see > what might happen with sincere TMers who are not aware of this if they > were to seek out Guru Dev in that context. > > If you wish to think that Guru Dev upon his physical death merely > disappeared into the Absolute, you may wish to see the following > statement from Brahmachari Satyanand, a long time disciple of Guru Dev > and later an assistant to Maharishi, who directly experienced Guru Dev > after his death: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/Satyanand.htm > > According to one of his biographers, Guru Dev also expressed to > disciples that he would respond to them via his picture. Specifically > he referred to his picture in the Puja room in a disciple's home. I > discovered the truth of that long before I ever heard about it from > anywhere else. > > My meditater wife has also seen Guru Dev's expression change in a > photo we have of him, AND spoken [telepathically] with him - and she's > only been meditating for about 6 months. We've been married for over > six years and she's been too skeptical about TM to do it until about 6 > months ago when she finally agreed to try it. She loves it. Though it may have significant personal meaning for a devotee to feel the presence of a guru in a photo or in contact with them on the subtle level, I'm not sure it proves anything objectively. There are tens of millions of people in the US, including our president, who feel Jesus talks to them personally. Does that mean Jesus is living up in a christian heaven overseeing the Iraq War among other things?
