--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Actually, your own quote states: "Secular" -- from the adjective > > > Saecularis: "worldly, secular, of the age" > > > > > > In other words it means "secular" also. No, SAECULARIS means "secular" and SECLORUM means "of the ages". > > > Saecularis MEANS "worldy", "secular", so what is the dispute? See above; SAECULARIS means "secular" and SECLORUM means "of the ages." > > The phrase is NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM, not NOVUS ORDO SAECULARIS. >>> > > Lol....You were the one that compared it to SAECULARIS , not me. > > > > SECLORUM means "of the Ages," or "of the Centuries," whereas if > they had meant "Secular" they would have used SAECULARIS.>>> > > It does not mean 'of the ages' and the seal's designer, Charles > Thomson, wrote that the words "signify the beginnings of the New > American Era." Yes, the literal translation is "A New Order of the Ages." Feel free to learn or re-learn Latin and see for yourself, or just take my word for it, or check out the Wikipedia link I gave you before. Here it is again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_Ordo_Seclorum > And according to your our own quote which states: > "Secular" -- from the adjective Saecularis: "worldly, secular, of > the age" > > In other words it means "secular" also. No, *only* SAECULARIS means "secular," SECLORUM means "of the ages." I was pointing out how it would be easy to confuse the two words, given their similar sources, but it would still be a mistake to do so. > Seclorum means Saecularis which MEANS "worldy", "secular", so what > is the dispute? No, SECLORUM does *not* mean SAECULARIS. SECLORUM (noun, possessive plural) means, literally, "of the Ages," and SAECULARIS (adjective) means "worldly, secular." Again, feel free to take my word for it, or learn Latin for yourself, or consult Wikipedia regarding its nuances of meaning and its origins in Virgil's Eclogues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_Ordo_Seclorum I've said all I have to say on this subject, ad infinitum et ad nauseam :-), and so this will be my last post on the subject of Novus Ordo Seclorum. I am in agreement with you on Judy! *L*L*L*
