--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> 
> wrote:


[big snip]


> > > but my involvement in such things is limited to just this 
> > > board, one other, and my daily practice of TM. I have no 
> involvement 
> > > nor do I discuss my spiritual life with anyone or any group 
> outside 
> > > this and one other forum.:-)
> > 
> > 
> > That's irrelevant to this discussion.
> >
> OK- Thanks for your comments. In such an online discussion it is 
> difficult for me to see what the real issues are sometimes. So, you 
> want me to say that I understand that Maharishi has done some things 
> or caused those in his organization to do some things which others 
> see as wrong. Yes, I see that. 
> 
> Second issue seems to be: Do I admit that Maharishi has done some 
> things that are wrong, and therefore these things impact my judgment 
> of his credibility? And my answer is that whatever he may have done 
> that is wrong doesn't impact my view of him. Which speaks directly 
> to the critical issue here of what I am attempting to get from him 
> that requires that his credibility remain absolutely intact. Because 
> the two are intimately linked; need and credibility.


This isn't about 'you' Jim OR what 'you' need or believe. It's about
Maharishi's legitimacy as a teacher and spiritual icon in terms of
right and wrong and the implications that flow from that for the
movement, all TMers and the public.


> There is nothing I need from Maharishi. Absolutely nothing at all. 
> Zip. Not enlightenment, or CC or GC or UC or Brahman, or any 
> explanations, elucidations, clarifications, techniques, or anything 
> else. That being said, there is nothing he can do to affect his 
> credibility with me. I want nothing from Maharishi, past, present or 
> future.
> 
> I hope this settles the question with you John. We appear to have 
> very different needs with regard to our relationship with  
> Maharishi.:-)

The discussion has *nothing* to do at all with what you or I might
"need" from Maharishi. It appears that you're tap dancing and that
it's a waste of time to discuss this any further with you. That's
unfortunate... for me, as I was beginning to feel that someone like
you would openly address this issue.




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