--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > [big snip] > > > > > > > > > but my involvement in such things is limited to just this > > > > > board, one other, and my daily practice of TM. I have no > > > involvement > > > > > nor do I discuss my spiritual life with anyone or any group > > > outside > > > > > this and one other forum.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > That's irrelevant to this discussion. > > > > > > > OK- Thanks for your comments. In such an online discussion it is > > > difficult for me to see what the real issues are sometimes. So, > you > > > want me to say that I understand that Maharishi has done some > things > > > or caused those in his organization to do some things which > others > > > see as wrong. Yes, I see that. > > > > > > Second issue seems to be: Do I admit that Maharishi has done > some > > > things that are wrong, and therefore these things impact my > judgment > > > of his credibility? And my answer is that whatever he may have > done > > > that is wrong doesn't impact my view of him. Which speaks > directly > > > to the critical issue here of what I am attempting to get from > him > > > that requires that his credibility remain absolutely intact. > Because > > > the two are intimately linked; need and credibility. > > > > > > This isn't about 'you' Jim OR what 'you' need or believe. It's > about > > Maharishi's legitimacy as a teacher and spiritual icon in terms of > > right and wrong and the implications that flow from that for the > > movement, all TMers and the public. > > > > > > > There is nothing I need from Maharishi. Absolutely nothing at > all. > > > Zip. Not enlightenment, or CC or GC or UC or Brahman, or any > > > explanations, elucidations, clarifications, techniques, or > anything > > > else. That being said, there is nothing he can do to affect his > > > credibility with me. I want nothing from Maharishi, past, > present or > > > future. > > > > > > I hope this settles the question with you John. We appear to > have > > > very different needs with regard to our relationship with > > > Maharishi.:-) > > > > The discussion has *nothing* to do at all with what you or I might > > "need" from Maharishi. It appears that you're tap dancing and that > > it's a waste of time to discuss this any further with you. That's > > unfortunate... for me, as I was beginning to feel that someone like > > you would openly address this issue. > > > Not tap dancing at all. What is there to do? Post stuff on that TM > Free website? What do you want to do? Again, it comes down to your > objectives. What are your objectives here? > > If Maharishi's reputation is sullied and it affects his credibility > in the eyes of the public, and therefore fewer people will see the > legitimacy of TM, what is there to do? Must something be done, or > can we trust that as Maharishi once said, "all is well and wisely > set"? What kind of result are you looking for? :-)
Again, you're tap dancing. It isn't a matter of "what to do". That's just another dodge. [Seems the dodges are endless with you.] It's a matter of acknowledgement and discussion. You appear unwilling to directly acknowledge or to directly discuss the objective facts that I've brought up. You treat all of this as if it has no significance. But it does and you won't even admit that.
