This is what I did with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt. She did not want to
travel in a car----------ever again----no way. Nor did she ever want to visit
a vet again. It is extremely hard to let them do this their way but you can do
it. Draw your strength fro Rikki. I can not tell you how I got thru it with
Kitty but I can tell you I am very sure it is the way it should be for her.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: Hideyo Yamamoto
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?
I think that Rikki's kidney has started to shut down,,I am not going to take
him to a vet any more - He wanted to come home and I promised to him that I
wouldn't do anything to stress him out - I want him to be peaceful at home..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 4:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?
At 03:27 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
so glad the vet did a necropsy on Olive for you, Maybe I watch to much TV and
my work on the hospital, sometimes getting a good diagnosis is the hardest
part, Be a detective to help your vet, What do all these cats have in common
food, bowels, sleeping arrangements, What kind of homeopathic remedys or even
supplements,,
How is Rikki doing?? It is not which symptoms do not sound like FIP but
rather what other illnesses have the same symptoms. A differential diagnosis
may really need a specialist who can order other tests your general vet may not
even think of,
It must be so frustrating for you, and hard,
We will all keep thinking hard. Is there a vet school close by????
Kelly l
I think none of the kitties whom she lost recently to FIP at this past
incident was felk positive - (she had sent me the details of every kitty whom
she lost as I was very curious to find out what happened) -Karen who also
lost 6 of her kitties to FIP recently and none of them were felk positive
either..
I ended up doing necropaise on Olive as my vet suggested and it was FIP -
and I am assuming that the rest of my babies were also FIP - I am not sure
which portion of the symptoms don't sound like FIP except Rikki- I really wish
it was something else.. I have not lost any kitties older than two years old -
three were less than 1 year, and Peter was 1.5 years old..- I don't know for
sure if Rikki has FIP and it caused ARF or not - but there was nothing that he
could get into - please trust me - I would think of all the reasons to cause
what' s causing - Rikki's blood work is very similar to Peter though Rikki's
liver is functions are fine- I did all the blood parasite tests on Rikki - and
it was all negative - what else could it be? I don't keep any chemicals at all
in my house for cleaning supplies - as I get so worried about it .. if not,
FIP - what could it be? If you have any other ideas of the cause, I would love
to look into it..please let me know..
I have two separate houses where I keep my cats next to each other.. none of
the kitties from the other house (they are all older than 3 years old and I
have not brought any new kitties to the house for the past three years or so) -
When I read about the symptoms (both lab and clinical) of FIP -they are very
much what my kitties have gotten - it just attacks differents part of the body,
whether it's liver, kidney or CNS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?
Sally works with FeLV+ cats and kittens. FIP is much more common in cats who
are FeLV+. At one time it was thought that FIP and FeLV were part of the same
disorder.
The cattery situations often involve inbreeding.
I am on the FIP list. I have lost rescues last year and this year to FIP but
they have always been kittens under 10 months in age.
Hideyo, PLEASE look at causes other than FIP. Please do not lock on FIP as
the only explanation. From what you have described I think you need to look at
toxins in the environment, whether cleaning supplies, herbal or other
alternative medicines, something else. Your situation does not sound like FIP
to me. It sounds like at least some of these cats may be ingesting a toxic
substance. You really need to do necropsies to get to the bottom of this.
Please, if you keep focussing on FIP, you may miss a preventable/treatable
cause.
Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's not that common - but there are a couple people on FIP list who has had
a similar experience as I do - some lost 20 in catteries or a couple of
hundreds even in some sheleter - they were all young kittens -
I was just talking to a couple of people who have lost 6 of their cats one
after the other to wet and dry FIP - and also Sally forester lost a several
kittens to wet FIP within a few months period - once you lose a couple of them,
you become very sensitive to certain symptoms.. now I have one boy Toni who I
rescued a couple of months ago started showing URIs symptoms and reocuurance
low grade fever - I am not freaking out yet.. but low grade fever that keeps
come back is usuall suspicious.. on the other hand, my FIV boy toby had 107
temp yesterday all of sudden and sneeze,, and knew he did not have FIP, just
calici virus or something.. and temp went down with some homeopathic remedy..
dry FIP is very subtle .. you think they just don't feel too good but they
usually eat okay - that's why it's to easy to miss..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?
Hideyo, I am still not convinced they have FIP, still. It is very unlikely
for so many to get it at once. Can you consult with an internist?
Michelle
In a message dated 11/17/2006 10:13:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED] writes:
What a nice things to say, Marlyn - you are making me cry more..
It's very difficult with this diseases - as they did not come diseased before
they came to my house - FIP is a disease that produced by multihouse cat
household - so I am the main part of the reasons why they have had this disease
and I just can't change that..
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