Or lots of mice, nice juicy mice.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis ----- Original Message ----- From: MaryChristine To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up (oh, it's been a long year already....... i know what you MEANT, marylyn, but i have this image in my head of all these cats and dogs lining up at caroline's door, as CLIENTS..... "really, she SWORE she was spayed!" "well, yeah, i DID bite him, but you would have too!"..... and them paying her in rawhide bones and enormous bags of primo catnip....) MC On Jan 1, 2008 8:12 AM, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unasked for advise: I know you know this but I have to repeat it. Be very careful when you are close to the face of a feral/barn/alley/unknown cat. I had a very small cat bite and break a finger costing me two surgeries, the possibility of losing part of the finger etc. I was at the ER and being treated within 15 minutes of the bite and seeing the wonderful surgeons at U of L's Hand Clinic in less than 24 hours so lack of attention was not an issue. No need to be afraid but be alert to sight/flight signs in the cats. You are going to be bitten and scratched. That is part of the game. And yes, I snuggle mine and still deal with ferals/strays/throw-always----those little ones who need a kind word and kind hand. Again, you are doing great. Now set up a law practice dedicated to animals. :)))) If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis ----- Original Message ----- From: Marylyn To: email@example.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up What did Dr. Maier say about supplements? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Kaufmann To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up Well, I think I just never saw him drink b/c I had him only from last sat. night until monday in my bedroom with my other cats (I have two large rooms connected- so they have tons of space. All but Possum sleep in the condo- which is set up by the front window- at night). But we did keep him in a separate crate in the room until the vet visit last monday, and that vet said to isolate him, so poor kitty and his crate went to the basement. I felt horrible, but we are just currently running out of rooms. So, he was stuck down there all alone and since he wasn't with me in my room, I wasn't able to see what he does. He spent most of his time down there crying crying crying (broke my heart) and knocking over his coop cup of water and food in his desperate attempts to reach thru the crate. It was horrible, I know, but our basement doesn't have a real door- it's a folding levelor blind-like door and every cat, save for the teeny barn kittens, have made short shrift of it! Anyway, per Dr. Maier's advice- after she told me her analysis of the blood tests (she doesn't think it's FIP (she said severe dehydration will cause high protein and high globulin in the blood- also, he didn't test pos. for any corona virus, so I don't see how the conventional vet can say FIP???). She thinks it's just very very very bad malnourishment/dehydration, infection from chronic URIs setting in, stress, etc). So, I moved him into my room on Sat., per her okay and recc that it would be better for him. Since he and Possum are both special needs, slow (which incidentally makes them really good kitties b/c they don't have the energy to "be bad"!), both recovering from what is hopefully only malnourishment, etc., they both stay out in the room/sleep with me on the bed at night (they are both such good little boys)! So I finally saw him drink water and it's all at once, wonderful and hilarious! He drinks voraciously (as voraciously as he eats his wet food- well, he's into the crunchies too, but the wet food eating it funnier b/c he smacks him lips and gobbles and just makes all these snarfling noises while eating- and gets it all over his nose- like he never tasted anything so good!). So the water drinking is similar-- very loud, very intense, and when he looks up, he has it all over his chin and nose! So, I am no longer concerned about water drinking. I add a lot of water to his wet food too and he doesn't seem to mind. He's not dehydrated anymore either. He still looks like an old man cat to me tho- which is sad because he's only 6 months. Sigh. He looks like what my 19 yo Rambo looked like his last year of life. He really bounced back after just coming to my house, getting fluids and the shot of penicillin, but he seems to have leveled off now. We'll see...I really hope it's not dry FIP. I just can't go through that. Tackling this malnourishment and weakened state has been hard enough... caroline ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: email@example.com Subject: Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:38:57 -0600 Try dripping water or a water fountain. Ebony loved to drink from the faucet. I like the fountain better because the water can be filtered. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Kaufmann To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up I have never seen him drink water, so I am not sure. But he's been urinating a lot- of course that could be from the fluids. He was dehydrated on Monday, but he bounced back so much after the shot of Penicillin and one bought of subcu fluids- it was really remarkable. And of course, the vet isn't able to "see" that. Since I have never seen him drink water, I have been adding water and KMR to his wet food- just to make sure to get some extra in. He eats almost all of his food up, so he's certainly getting moisture that way. caroline ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:47:47 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: email@example.com Subject: Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up That is great news, that everything is negative. Is he drinking normally? Is he dehydrated? If he is not dehydrated....I would not see any need for fluids (but I'm not a vet, this is not to be construed as veterinary advice, yadda yadda) Kelley On Dec 27, 2007 8:39 PM, Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay, the results are not all in, but I finally talked to the Vet about the blood tests from the sick kitten I took in- which he suspect FIP in. The cat was NEGATIVE for Felv (so that's the second time he's tested neg.- first at approx. 2 mths old, now at 6 mths). He NEGATIVE for FIV (which he had not yet been tested for ever). The vet also says that so far, it looks like it's not FIP and he talked about how there is no conclusive test, etc., so for now, he has to go by the presence of antibodies- which he says are usually higher if the cat has "dry" FIP and then even higher if it's "wet" FIP. He says the antibodies are just not high enough to for it to be FIP- either the dry or wet form. So he remains concerned tho that it's a an infectious ( i.e., contagious) disease. What he is waiting on now is the toxoplasmosis test b/c now he is suspecting that. He said the results of that test will be in tomorrow. He also said the blood is showing high globulin levels and high white blood cells- both of which indicate some kind of an infection, but he just doesn't know what kind yet. I do have a phone consultation appointment tomorrow at 5:00 with the holistic vet (Marylyn-- Dr. Maier) who treated Monkee at the end of his life and whom Monkee loved- at a time when he was utterly miserable and fed up with vets! We are consulting on this kitten and then also to discuss general care of fosters and things I can do holistically to help them rehab faster. I may end up taking Yoda to her anyway b/c of the diarrhea that I can't get traditional vets to address. Hopefully, I will have the blood tests results on my sick kitten emailed to me before then, so I can forward them to her for her review and "second" opinion. I feel better because I am finally getting some freaking vets lined up so that I can finally take care of these fosters without always feeling like I'm supposed to do so without ever having veterinary access unless a cat is pretty much dying in my arms. Monkee died in my arms despite all the things we did to save him and there is NO WAY I'm going to allow another cat to die in my arms- especially these fosters who seem to have totally treatable (possibly preventable) things going on with them! Urg. So we continue to forge ahead. Poor kitty feels so much better and I'm worried about continuing to give him fluids. Dr. Maier said in an email that if he is doing that much better and has had 3 treatments of subcu fluids, it's probably not necessary to do them today. But when I talked to the conventional vet that saw the cat on Monday, he said to continue them b/c "extra fluids are extra fluids," "it can't really hurt him" (I beg to differ- it's very traumatic b/c it's just me and him in a contest of wills and strength and it's pretty horrible- he gets that huge needle out everytime and I have to re-stick him-- which is hell for me and him), and "without really seeing the cat, he can't tell me to discontinue fluids." Well, my mom and I have discussed it and I'm doing them tonight. It's too much on him and me. He's feeling too "good" now so that he really fights the fluid giving. I always recall that Dr. Maier- in all her holistic wisdom- said (when I first took Monkee to her), that "you don't want the treatment to be worse than the disease." I think that solves my dilemma for now. Caroline ---------------------------------------------------------------- The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer on an Xbox 360 Console. Get it now! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart -------------------------------------------------------------------- Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. Share now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. Get it now! -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! 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