You are correct in the fact that this is what's on the Cornell web
site-unfortunately that site has not been updated in years and does indeed
contain some very outdated info.  That info was then used by a variety of
other sites as gospel and therein the dilemma.  I know there are other
references, more recent, that verify the 'if it dries-it dies' construct.  I
spent hours and hours researching when my Tucson was first diagnosed at age
5 and that first hit on the Cornell site gave me countless hours of
sleepness nights! And you are correct in saying that FELV vaccine is not
100%--no vaccine is.  But one thing I did learn in my readings became a
critical piece of info when I was trying to figure things out.  My Tucson
had been tested when I first got her at about 8 weeks old & she was neg.
Then all of a sudden, almost 5 years later, she tested positive.  She was an
indoor only cat from the moment I got her & the other 3 cats I had, (2 of
whom came in as kittens after I got Tucson) consistently tested neg when I
had them tested as adults.  Turns out that depending on the 'stage' of the
virus when snap test is administered, the results can be a false negative.
Indeed, the ideal protocol for kittens is to test at the point of weaning,
and if neg, test again no sooner than 6-9 months-of course, that would
eliminate all adoptions!  Anyway, based on my personal experience (such as
it is) & the exhaustive reading and consulting I did, I (and the 2 vets who
treated Tucson) were convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that she harbored
the virus all along.  And, it is not such a transmittable disease because
the 3 cats she lived with all those years are still neg, still share
food/water dishes, litter boxes etc.  The only changes I made after Tucson's
diagnosis was to vaccinate the other 3-and yes, I took in  a stray I'd been
feeding for two years who was never sick a day in his life and he turned out
to be positive.   


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dorothy Noble
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: more questions and thankyou


You are welcome to describe my information as "inaccurate";  I wrote:
Apparently the virus CAN live for a while.  I have read in several
places that you need to clean any area with a bleach/water cleaner if a +
cat has been where a negative one will be staying.  It is said that you
should wait 30 days after your + cat is gone before you should
introduce a new negative cat into the household.


I would think that the Cornell University (as well as all of the others
documented below) hold a certain amount of credibility - more so than any
layman just posting their opinions here.  

Whatever you believe, I would ALWAYS err on the side of caution and keep all
of the litterboxes, bowls, etc separate.  Without knowing it, I put my
negative cats at risk; they had all been vaccinated for FeLV but it isn't
100% effective.  Due to the extreme contagiousness, one of my vaccinated
cats now is FeLV positive.  Please note the yellow highlighted part below -
by following this strictly, my other negative cat remained negative.

Suit yourself, but I prefer to be proactive with my cats.


What can I do now to protect my cats?? The only method for protecting your
cats is to remove any FELV-positive cat from other cats completely. You
should also follow strict quarantine procedures including separate utensils,
housing, litter pans for the FELV positive cat, and thoroughly washing your
hands, clothing and shoes after handling and caring for the FELV positive
cat. Do not breed an FELV positive queen!! If you lose a cat to FELV, it is
recommended that you wait 30 days before bringing in a new cat, and then
only after the area has been thoroughly scrubbed and disinfected with a
solution containing 4 ounces of household bleach per gallon of water, rugs
vacuumed completely, and all litter pans, food dishes, bedding, etc. have
been replaced. 


*       FeLV is considerably unstable and will not survive outside an
infected cat for an extended length of time. It is recommended to wait at
least 30 days before a new cat is brought into the household/facility in
which a FeLV-positive cat once lived 
*       Cleaning:
Thoroughly disinfect or replace the food dishes, litter pans, and bedding
that were used by the infected cat.
Tile or hard surfaced floors should be cleaned and disinfected with a
diluted bleach solution (approx. 4 oz. household bleach to 1 gal. water). 
Thoroughly vacuum rugs to eliminate the virus from carpeting. 
*       These plus the thirty-day quarantine, should be sufficient to
eliminate the virus within the household. 


Keep a FeLV-infected cat indoors and away from other cats. If the cat dies
from FeLV, the Cornell Feline Health Center recommends a waiting period of
at least 30 days before getting another cat. The house and cat supplies
should be thoroughly cleaned and disinfected before bringing a new cat home.

An FeLV-positive cat that is not sick is probably still shedding the virus.
FeLV-positive cats should not be housed with other cats. Deciding what to do
with an FeLV-positive cat in a multicat household can be very difficult.
There are several options, including:

*       Euthanasia 
*       Finding a home for the FeLV-positive cat where it will be the sole
*       Isolating the FeLV-positive cat within the home, by keeping it in a
separate room and providing a separate litter tray and feeding bowl 

Because FeLV can be spread through litter trays, water and food bowls, and
bedding, these should be disinfected with a solution containing 4 ounces of
household bleach per 1 gallon of water, or they should be replaced after
isolating the FeLV-positive cat. Floors should be cleaned and disinfected
with a bleach solution, and rugs should be thoroughly vacuumed.



If you have previously had a cat with FeLV, wait at least 30 days before
acquiring a new cat. During that time, all litterboxes and food bowls should
be replaced, and the premises cleaned thoroughly.

Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is why inaccurate information is so harmful, Dorthys info is 
wrong, it dries it dies, talk to any vet who is knowledgable about FeLV 
if you can find one, there aren't many even today it seems.

> Now I am worried. I have been taking good care of Buzz's dishes and
washing my hands after I leave his room. If this virus lasts on clothing
then I have put my other cats at risk every time I pick them up in spite of
the precautions.


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