My veterinarian NEVER vaccinates cats at the time of surgery, illness...unlike many vets who insist on vaccinating no matter how ill the cats are.....Cat owners do not bother finding out which vaccines to choose or not, depending on a cat's lifestyle....many blindly accept a vet's vaccine protocol....getting FeLV and FIV vaccines when it isn't warranted, neither going outside or exposed to other cats who might have it.....I have yet to see a vet who adheres to the latest protocol for FVRCP instead of yearly, every three years. It's all about the money with many vets.....Personally, I have not have cats with injection site sarcomas, nor from FeLV vaccines - have never used them yet. I have only two healthy FeLV+ cats that are very healthy.
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Brockman Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I know of several instances of the same thing happening Natalie in addition to two kittens I personally adopted devloping FIP after vaccines which is why I feel so strongly about vaccines. Also, there seems to be a higher occurance of injection site sarcomas when the felv vaccine is combined with the rabies vaccine. fyi -----Original Message----- From: Natalie Sent: 10/15/2010 1:37:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Vaccinating cats for anything when their immune systems are seriously compromised can be very dangerous! I have also known friends with cats that were routinely vaccinated against FeLV that developed all kinds of cancers - coincidence or not, it does happen. Natlie -----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to mix. At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the Info should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know they can live with. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Michelle Brockman " <teals...@hotmail.com> Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -----Original Message----- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org<http://www.Fur kids.org>> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman <teals...@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Michelle Brockman <teals...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -----Original Message----- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren <fs...@roadrunner.com> wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -----Original Message----- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. 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