I agree with everyone else.  The virus has probably gotten in her system since 
she's had two positive ELISA tests but there is a chance she could fight it off 
before it goes any further.  If she does extinguish the virus she'll eventually 
test negative on both the ELISA and the IFA.  If her system can't get rid of 
the virus then eventually she'll test positive on the IFA.  (Course there is 
the possibility that both ELISA tests were wrong but probably not very likely). 
 If you can keep her for a bit then re-test it would be better to give her time 
to see if she fights the virus off.  It's harder for kittens to fight the virus 
but not impossible.  I have heard of kittens fighting it off so if you can give 
her a little time so she has a chance for her immune system to do it's magic 
that would be the better option I would think.  

This lady with the FeLV sanctuary must be a wonderful person to do what she 
does.  I don't think she understands the mechanics of how FeLV works though and 
how it gets into the body and then progresses.  I'm not an expert but I have 
read lots and talked with several vets and of course everyone here knows a lot 
so I think the lady is mistaken in what she told you.  She may have been 
talking about lymphoma which is one thing that can happen to a cat with FeLV.  
But it's no guarantee that that is what will happen with Poppy even if she 
can't fight the virus off.  Some cats get a kind of severe anemia or several 
other things can happen, but some cats live with FeLV for a long long time and 
never have trouble.  We were just talking about the 11 year old cat with FeLV.  
At the same time I had been talking with someone in my Feline Asthma group that 
just had a 16 year old cat that died and they discovered FeLV.  They knew for 
sure the cat could have only gotten it as a kitten so she lived for 16 years 
with it which is a long time.  So some cats just defy odds and live a long life 
so you can't say for certain how Poppy will do even if she has FeLV.  Like I 
said, wonderful lady but it doesn't sound like she knows a lot about FeLV.  
Maybe she's just telling you stuff based on her personal experience with it.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain



> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:06:28 -0500
> From: pam_nor...@charter.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
> 
> Good idea, but no, it was a blood test.  Both Elisas.
> 
> On 4/18/2011 4:21 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:
> > Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or
> > saliva/tears???  Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test&  its
> > notorious for being wrong.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
> >
> > She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative.  An initial positive on the
> > Elisa&  the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative
> > on the IFA.
> >
> > On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:
> >>      Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no
> > clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has
> > been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV
> > positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to
> > clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus
> > from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I
> > have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that
> > there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3
> > of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are
> > 99.999% accurate.
> >>      Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2
> > years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a
> > natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the
> > non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very
> > small.
> >>      I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!!
> >> Tanya
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman<pam_nor...@charter.net>   wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Pam Norman<pam_nor...@charter.net>
> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from
> >>> IDEXX.   Poppy is IFA
> >>> negative!   BUT they did another Elisa (the
> >>> first was done in-house)&   she is still Elisa positive.
> >>>
> >>> So tell me now what this means.  I have to go off to Madison right
> >>> now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this
> >>> confirmed info in hand.  My woman who is willing to take Poppy into
> >>> her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will  test positive on the
> >>> next IFA in a month&   all this IFA means is that she does not have
> >>> melanoma or something else.  My vet is kinda skeptical too.  But you
> >>> all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman
> >>> with the sanctuary) but I need your input.
> >>>
> >>> My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't
> >>> done for some reason.  Will probably try to do that when I transition
> >>> her out of the condo. Into a crate.
> >>> Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a
> >>> twin bed in there but am going to take the frame  out&   put the
> >>> mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed
> >>> in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall.  There
> >>> is a low to the floor desk&   I guess I will let her have that but
> >>> will barricade everything else&   leave several open crates with
> >>> towels around also.
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile her appetite is very good.
> >>>
> >>> I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of
> >>> my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me
> >>> a nice cat but it would be positive&   that would eliminate any
> >>> little chance Poppy might have.
> >>>
> >>> Your thoughts, please please.
> >>>
> >>> Pam
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