gOT TO TRY SOJE OF THOSE LITTLE GUYS!  With all the critters I have roaming 
around my place, I need something.  Come to think of it, all the deer, 
raccoons, possumn, etc. will prbably apprecite them too, also.  At least they 
would not be dropping them off to get on my guys.


---- Maureen Olvey <molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some 
> nurseries.  I got some at Pike this year.  You can also order them from 
> online.  I ordered some from Amazon.  I haven't put those out yet so I can 
> testify to them.  I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through 
> the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the 
> mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were 
> in the shipping process.  I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a 
> little leary.  But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring 
> worked great.  Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those 
> little black ants coming in either.  I think I'll be putting them down every 
> year from now on.
> 
> I'm not sure if they work on ticks.  Seems like they would if ticks spend a 
> lot of time on the ground.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> > From: ho...@sonic.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
> > 
> > Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes?
> > What are they called & where do you get them!
> > ~Bonnie
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
> > 
> > No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes 
> > around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > dlg...@windstream.net
> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
> > 
> > I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES.  
> > 
> > It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place.  I had 
> > been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over 
> > a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took 
> > Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also.  
> > Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her 
> > normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks.  I 
> > check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone 
> > got a dose of tick treament.  I have since found a lot of them on myself, 
> > seed and regular ticks.  Anyone else haeing a big problem with them?
> > 
> > ---- Cindy McHugh <ci...@furangels.org> wrote: 
> > > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for 
> > > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember 
> > > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal 
> > > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended 
> > > for dogs on it. So
> > > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet 
> > > first about adjusting the dosage.
> > > 
> > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot
> > > 
> > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
> > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just 
> > > discussing it with my feline asthma group.
> > > 
> > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems.  I have a 
> > > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard.  That is making things 
> > > ten times worse.  I've been using Revolution for several years now with 
> > > no problems.
> > > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog 
> > > size and split it up between the cats.  I don't know if the Revolution 
> > > isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for 
> > > fleas.  If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an 
> > > especially bad year.
> > > Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes 
> > > switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a 
> > > tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is 
> > > processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them 
> > > for so long.  Who knows.  If you've been using Advantage maybe you 
> > > should try Revolution or Frontline Plus.  I believe Frontline Plus 
> > > kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that 
> > > might be a good one too.  I hate using all these chemicals on my cats 
> > > but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few 
> > > ferals that live here that I can't touch.
> > > 
> > > I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to 
> > > do something.  I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone 
> > > else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, 
> > > don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off 
> > > until it dries"
> > > and that really scares me.  If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the 
> > > yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad.  
> > > But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I 
> > > just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth.  I've been using Flea 
> > > Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product.  Well, I just 
> > > sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet 
> > > because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll 
> > > take a while to make a difference.  But if anyone wants to try them I 
> > > got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95.  I think you can order them 
> > > online also.  I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks.
> > > 
> > > The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store.  It's the food 
> > > grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are 
> > > thinking of trying it check your feed stores first.  I got a 50 lb bag 
> > > for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever.  I can't believe how 
> > > little it takes.  I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had.  
> > > I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and 
> > > putting a little in my cat's coats.  It's very very very dusty so you 
> > > definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it.  I am hesistant about 
> > > using it in the house because it is so so dusty.  That's why I went 
> > > with the borax inside in the carpets.  I did put the diatomaceous 
> > > earth on the cat trees and their bedding though.  The DE is the 
> > > consistency of flour.  Feels just like it and is dusty just like it.  
> > > I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust 
> > > cloud around them.  So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in 
> > > the house.  I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but 
> > > I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference.  
> > > I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked 
> > > them when they come in from outside.  They are still coming in with 
> > > fleas but I don't think it is as many.  The DE doesn't kill the fleas 
> > > right away either.  It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die 
> > > so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts 
> > > cutting down the flea population.  If anyone puts it on their cat I'll 
> > > just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling.  Still better 
> > > than fleas if you ask me.  Of course the cats are going to clean 
> > > themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to get the food grade 
> > > stuff.  They use it in other forms, like in swimming pools, and it's very 
> > > toxic.
> > > 
> > > I haven't put the DE in my cats' food yet but a woman in my feline 
> > > asthma group swears by it and she uses it and puts it in her cats' 
> > > food and has for years and says they always test negative for worms.  
> > > She puts it in her coffee and says she can see differences since she 
> > > started using it.
> > > 
> > > Well, just thought I'd share the things I'm trying.  I'm still putting 
> > > Revolution on the cats because I've got a lot of it but if I don't 
> > > start seeing a difference soon I'll probably switch to either 
> > > Frontline Plus or Advantage.  Nothing has made a big difference so 
> > > far, except the borax and the vaccuming, but I think that's because 
> > > there are so many fleas outside that every time the cats go out they 
> > > pick up 100 more fleas and it takes time for all those fleas to bite 
> > > the cats and die.  I don't know.  I would think the flea products 
> > > would kill the fleas that get on them pretty quick but honestly it's 
> > > not.  I'm hoping once I get the yard under control that will bring the 
> > > flea population down tremendously.  Well, I'm off now to go finish 
> > > spreading more DE in the yard.  I'll let you guys know if it makes a 
> > > difference.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
> > > are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it 
> > > inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
> > > it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
> > > looking further.” – Mark Twain
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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