I think it's as usual, protests from veterinarians (who have no business being vets) because it provides a good income! Why do Hunting groups object to spaying and neutering? Why is there a push by the government and supported by hunting groups, to eliminate all stray cats by trapping, bowhunting, firearm hunting?????
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is illegal! I took a look at the list of countries that do not allow declawing. Why is the US always behind in this sort of issue? ---- Peggy Verdonck <jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm from the Netherlands. Its illegal to declaw there. People who want > to have it done anyway will bring them to Belgium to have it done. :-/ > > On Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM, "Beth" <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Our shelter does not allow our cats to be declawed. We tell them > > about > declawing , offer free nail clipping at the shelter, or suggest they > adopt an already declawed cat. > > I don't agree with having laws against declawing. I think you will > > just > end up with more cats being dumped in shelters of outside. I think > education is the best way to get people away from declawing. > > > > > > Beth > > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: tamara stickler <tlstick...@yahoo.com> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is illegal! > > > > > > I never place a rescue cat with a person if they are going to declaw > > - BUT > - I DO offer free nail clipping for the duration for any cats that I > place in homes (as long as they are local...w/in 1.5 hrs.) for the > life of the cat. > > > > I even have a woman who I turned down for cat adoption - that > > adopted from > a shelter later - that asks me to come over once or twice a month to > clip the cat's nails. She still doesn't understand HOW or WHY it is > inhumane - even after I explained it to her....but - it really doesn't > matter. She is allowing her cat to keep it's nails a long as I clip > them - so- I'm willing to do that. > > > > Terri - WAY TO GO standing your ground! - even if it did cost you an apt. > and job. Good kharma will be the pay off for you! > > > > Tamara > > > > --- On Sat, 8/27/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > > > > > >>From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net> > >>Subject: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is illegal! > >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 9:44 AM > >> > >> > >> > >>A question about which states do NOT allow declawing: > http://cats.about.com/od/declawing/f/uslaws.htm > >>A list of countries where declawing is illegal: > http://www.declawing.com/list.html > >>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown > >>Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:52 PM > >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > >> > >>Paws come with claws. Period. I once lost a job opportunity (which > >>came > with a free apartment) because the owner wanted me to declaw. I told him: > "Unfortunately for you, it will NEVER happen, because I believe it's > cruelty to animals." > >> > >>Needless to say, I never got called for a second interview. > >> > >>And I'd do it again. > >> > >>I think I was about 37 at the time. I've always had a big mouth..... > >> > >>=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and > >>6 > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi > =^..^= > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From:Natalie > >>>To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>Sent:Friday, August 26, 2011 8:04 PM > >>>Subject:Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > >>> > >>>I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously- it is > >>>the most > devastating thing for a cat. Knowing what I do, I would be more > heartbroken doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat, > trust me. I wonder how a cat would feel if > >>>he/she knew that it had a choice between missing the owner or > >>>having > their paws mutilated? According to Dr. Nicholas Doddman, who wrote > The Cat that Cried for Help, after declawing surgery, cats feel such > extreme pain that they either climb the walls of the cage or sit > completely morose and cowering in the corner, something that their > owners will never see. I have a copy of an article written for NY > Times Magazine a few years ago, where a woman writes about declawing > her older cat because her mother's oriental rug was being scratched > up. It is one of my hand-out's to adopters - the story is > heartbreaking, and very typical. After the hurricane is over, I will > scan it and post it. It is probably the best I've read, without going into the gory details of declawing. > >>>Natalie > >>> > >>>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika > >>>Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM > >>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > >>> > >>>Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your > >>>email > program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. > >>> > >>>I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners > >>>literally to > death after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather > declaw them. Hopefully I will not need to make that choice. > >>>On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > >>>OMG - you are responding to a post from March..I thought that I was > >>>going > crazy and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, NOW! > >>>There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are > declawed.I guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats peeing > everywhere instead of possibly scratching something, and it would most > likely be the tenants' own furniture! > >>>I would rather give my cat away than declaw it - especially when > >>>it's an > older cat - it's so much harder on them (not that it isn't on > young(er) cats). > >>>There needs to be a lot of education on declawing and what the > psychological/emotional and physical effects can take be. We have had > a few abandoned declawed cats, and I have witnessed almost all of > them...but all the damage had already been done, and what was I to do > - throw them out or kill them? I found some homes that understood the > ramifications and dealt with the problems as well as they could. > >>>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika > >>>Keep Cats Indoors > >>> Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is > >>>fortunate > enough to find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is > likely to require declawing. > >>>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > >>>That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have a > >>>cat > with > >>>claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or > >>>scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old. And as I said, > >>>bites are > a > >>>natural defense for declawed cats! > >>-----Inline Attachment Follows----- > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Felvtalk mailing list > >>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>rg > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > rg _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
