Yes, around here cats and dogs provide good practice shots just before the season. Someone said they were going to come to my house for some practice shots. I told them I would shoot them the minute they tried t shoot my cats. Of course they said they were just "kidding" and I said that had better be the truth because if one of my cats nded up shot, I wold come looking for them and after I shot them I would sue them for all I could get.
---- Natalie <[email protected]> wrote: > I think it's as usual, protests from veterinarians (who have no business > being vets) because it provides a good income! > Why do Hunting groups object to spaying and neutering? > Why is there a push by the government and supported by hunting groups, to > eliminate all stray cats by trapping, bowhunting, firearm hunting????? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is illegal! > > I took a look at the list of countries that do not allow declawing. Why is > the US always behind in this sort of issue? > > > ---- Peggy Verdonck <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm from the Netherlands. Its illegal to declaw there. People who want > > to have it done anyway will bring them to Belgium to have it done. :-/ > > > > On Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM, "Beth" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Our shelter does not allow our cats to be declawed. We tell them > > > about > > declawing , offer free nail clipping at the shelter, or suggest they > > adopt an already declawed cat. > > > I don't agree with having laws against declawing. I think you will > > > just > > end up with more cats being dumped in shelters of outside. I think > > education is the best way to get people away from declawing. > > > > > > > > > Beth > > > > > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: tamara stickler <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:19 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is > illegal! > > > > > > > > > I never place a rescue cat with a person if they are going to declaw > > > - BUT > > - I DO offer free nail clipping for the duration for any cats that I > > place in homes (as long as they are local...w/in 1.5 hrs.) for the > > life of the cat. > > > > > > I even have a woman who I turned down for cat adoption - that > > > adopted from > > a shelter later - that asks me to come over once or twice a month to > > clip the cat's nails. She still doesn't understand HOW or WHY it is > > inhumane - even after I explained it to her....but - it really doesn't > > matter. She is allowing her cat to keep it's nails a long as I clip > > them - so- I'm willing to do that. > > > > > > Terri - WAY TO GO standing your ground! - even if it did cost you an > apt. > > and job. Good kharma will be the pay off for you! > > > > > > Tamara > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/27/11, Natalie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>From: Natalie <[email protected]> > > >>Subject: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is illegal! > > >>To: [email protected] > > >>Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 9:44 AM > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>A question about which states do NOT allow declawing: > > http://cats.about.com/od/declawing/f/uslaws.htm > > >>A list of countries where declawing is illegal: > > http://www.declawing.com/list.html > > >>From:[email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Terri Brown > > >>Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:52 PM > > >>To: [email protected] > > >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > > >> > > >>Paws come with claws. Period. I once lost a job opportunity (which > > >>came > > with a free apartment) because the owner wanted me to declaw. I told him: > > "Unfortunately for you, it will NEVER happen, because I believe it's > > cruelty to animals." > > >> > > >>Needless to say, I never got called for a second interview. > > >> > > >>And I'd do it again. > > >> > > >>I think I was about 37 at the time. I've always had a big mouth..... > > >> > > >>=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and > > >>6 > > furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi > > =^..^= > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From:Natalie > > >>>To:[email protected] > > >>>Sent:Friday, August 26, 2011 8:04 PM > > >>>Subject:Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > > >>> > > >>>I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously- it is > > >>>the most > > devastating thing for a cat. Knowing what I do, I would be more > > heartbroken doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat, > > trust me. I wonder how a cat would feel if > > >>>he/she knew that it had a choice between missing the owner or > > >>>having > > their paws mutilated? According to Dr. Nicholas Doddman, who wrote > > The Cat that Cried for Help, after declawing surgery, cats feel such > > extreme pain that they either climb the walls of the cage or sit > > completely morose and cowering in the corner, something that their > > owners will never see. I have a copy of an article written for NY > > Times Magazine a few years ago, where a woman writes about declawing > > her older cat because her mother's oriental rug was being scratched > > up. It is one of my hand-out's to adopters - the story is > > heartbreaking, and very typical. After the hurricane is over, I will > > scan it and post it. It is probably the best I've read, without going > into the gory details of declawing. > > >>>Natalie > > >>> > > >>>From:[email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika > > >>>Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM > > >>>To: [email protected] > > >>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors > > >>> > > >>>Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your > > >>>email > > program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. > > >>> > > >>>I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners > > >>>literally to > > death after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather > > declaw them. Hopefully I will not need to make that choice. > > >>>On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Natalie <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>OMG - you are responding to a post from March..I thought that I was > > >>>going > > crazy and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, NOW! > > >>>There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are > > declawed.I guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats peeing > > everywhere instead of possibly scratching something, and it would most > > likely be the tenants' own furniture! > > >>>I would rather give my cat away than declaw it - especially when > > >>>it's an > > older cat - it's so much harder on them (not that it isn't on > > young(er) cats). > > >>>There needs to be a lot of education on declawing and what the > > psychological/emotional and physical effects can take be. We have had > > a few abandoned declawed cats, and I have witnessed almost all of > > them...but all the damage had already been done, and what was I to do > > - throw them out or kill them? I found some homes that understood the > > ramifications and dealt with the problems as well as they could. > > >>>From:[email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika > > >>>Keep Cats Indoors > > >>> Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is > > >>>fortunate > > enough to find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is > > likely to require declawing. > > >>>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have a > > >>>cat > > with > > >>>claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten or > > >>>scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old. And as I said, > > >>>bites are > > a > > >>>natural defense for declawed cats! > > >>-----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Felvtalk mailing list > > >>[email protected] > > >>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > >>rg > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > > rg > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
