Alev, are you in Houston, TX.  What shelter was this?
 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:17:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] "No-kill" animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

Thank you Kathryn,
I signed the Houston petition already...I hope you guys get enough people on 
time. I checked the list, it was not in it before. I will check the new one 
too. I am thinking to send them an email about what I think of them and send a 
FB messages to people around town to warn that this shelter is not "no-kill" I 
don't know what else I can do?
Thank you so much to you all for all you support and info, really, sharing this 
with you made me cry more but better than holding in... 
        From: Kathryn Hargreaves <>
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] "No-kill" animal shelter killing FeLV+

Yes, and some have even gone so far as to define ``adoptable'' as those for 
which they have cages!  Outta space, outta luck.

As Christine probably knows, there are over 200 cities/towns that are now No 
Kill.  As for No Kill places being hard to find, at least someone is looking 
for them.   In fact, I just realized that my link to the No Kill communities 
list is outdated and should be replaced with this, which is the above someone's 

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: (see the right 

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Christiane Biagi <> wrote:

The caveat to the “no kill” (as defined in the Asilomar Accords) is that all it 
means is they will not kill adoptable animals.  Unfortunately, its up to the 
individual shelter/rescue to define what they consider “adoptable”.  All too 
often, facilities that advertise themselves as “no kill” really mean that they 
will kill all ill, senior, problem behavior, etc. animals but never kill a 
healthy easily adoptable animals.  These kinds of facilities never ever publish 
their "euthanasia matrix” which is where they define their policy on who they 
will kill.  True no kills (as we think it means & as defined by Nathan 
Winograd) are tough to find.  I volunteer for one such shelter in New Orleans 
(ARNO) & the
 handful of animals they’ve put down have been terminally ill animals who were 
either comatose or in intractable pain.  They never put down for fiv or felv!  

 The shelter you cited clearly is a kill shelter & why they wouldn’t have 
alerted you to the cat’s test results & given you some time demonstrates an 
attitude that is unfortunately all too common.  I’m so sorry this happened to 
you but please know that River had love from you—something she likely hadn’t 
had in a very long time.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] "No-kill" animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat


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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation:

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:

Legislate better animal pound conditions:

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