I HAVE FOUND STRESS TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS HUMANS AND ANIMALS FACE. rEMOVE THE STRESS AND THINGS USUALLY START TO GET BETTER.
---- Ardy Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you so much Amani – it really sounds like you have done your homework!! > And that’s just it – this happened so fast and took us so off-guard that I > didn’t have any knowledge of what to do. We took him in on a Sunday night, > and after putting some “puzzle pieces” together, I think he was getting sick > for a while and I just did not pick up on it. We had been gone for a couple > days, then we had company at our house so he was kind of out of sight and I > figured he just didn’t like the people, when actually he usually loves > people. He had felt hot a couple of times, but both times he was lying on a > window sill with the sun shining directly on him. Our regular vet was out so > a different animal hospital was filling in. They gave him fluids and > antibiotics as well as pain liquid and sent us home. No blood test. > > > > The next day our regular vet did xrays and found an enlarged lymph node > somewhere near his tummy I think, so that’s why they did the blood work and > found the FeLV. They were also the ones that did the FeLV test 5 years prior > when we found him as a kitten. They changed to an antibiotic 10-day shot for > what they thought was a bite from another cat that we had taken in (who tests > negative). That cat was a very aggressive player and really made Tigger > nervous and stressed out so we don’t have her anymore. > > > > I am going to read about Winstrol and also talk to both of our vet offices > about it. The reason I am using two vet offices is because our regular one is > 35 miles away and Tigger has needed to go in sometimes 5 times a week so we > started taking him to one in our city that Tigger didn’t like very much but > now they have different vets and they seem nicer to him. They have all > apologized that they really don’t know much about treating FeLV+ cats and > also don’t know much about any of the medicines used. (I would think they > would want to read up on it now that they have a patient needing treatment.) > At any rate, I think if Tigger can make progress, not only will we be > thrilled, but it may change the outlook for other cats in the future. > > > > Is the Winstrol an immune-booster, or an anti-viral drug? I’m not even sure > how the Interferon works, or if it does? I asked our vet if Tigger needs > another blood test because I do not know where his blood counts are, or if it > is in his bone marrow. I think I now know some additional questions I can be > asking. > > > > Thank you so much! > > Ardy Robertson > > Osseo, Wisconsin > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Amani Oakley > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Ardy > > > > If you do decide to try the Winstrol, get his blood checked before and then > after a few weeks on the Winstrol. If this works as well for you as it did > for me, you will want some solid proof to demonstrate its effect. Hopefully, > the vet will learn, as mine did since I got weekly blood work when Zander was > on Interferon, then LTCI and then Winstrol. The blood work spoke for itself. > Again, I have to say I have not seen anything else work so well to increase > weight, stamina and appetite than the Winstrol so see if your vets will get > it for you to try out. > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ardy > Robertson > Sent: October-20-15 10:13 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Hello – can I chime in here a bit? My cat Tigger is on Interferon (7 days on > then 7 days off and repeat) for FeLV. I think it might be helping but his > appetite is poor and I have to syringe feed him. Surprisingly a very large > syringe seems to work better than the small ones. I go slow to make sure I > don’t choke him and he might aspirate food into his lungs. For his comfort > (and mind) I fold a heavy bath towel in half and put it around him the same > way they do to us when we get our hair cut…then I clip it in back with a > large office binder-clip. He doesn’t feel like I am restraining him and has > actually gotten used to it, so less stress which is important for FeLV+ cats. > Also I do feed the critical care food thinned out a bit but when he got > constipated, my vet had me give him a couple tablespoons of pure pumpkin (no > spices) and it worked wonderfully. I know he needs calories of good quality, > but I think he also needs some carbs and bulk in order to keep regular, so I > mix some baby food chicken (the #1 kind for little babies) and some rice baby > cereal with some water. He does not seem to mind it. I also give him some > water. He has since started eating fairly well, but still not drinking as > much as he should. He is also on the appetite stimulant you mentioned. > > > > I had not heard about Winstrol before. The vets in my area have always > euthanized cats at the first mention of FeLV so treating Tigger is a big of a > learning experience for both of the offices that I take him to. I believe > taking him to both clinics is sort of giving him a second opinion and they > are both telling me they are learning about treating FeLV from him. Thank you > very much for allowing me to be a part of this group and learn. > > Ardy Robertson > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maya > D'Alessio > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:56 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I > will pass it along to my vet immediately. > > > > He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and > won't eat, I am assuming his body is not up to those drugs yet. He's > currently on doxy, prednisolone and mirtazipine (appetite stimulant), and > they gave him an antinauseant shot last night (cevinia I think). > > > > Question to the larger group; my cat is uncomfortable (although better than > yesterday), I have to force feed him and he's on a ton of drugs. How long is > this feasible? How long should I let it go if we don't see improvement? How > do you make that call. With my last cat, she deteriorated so rapidly and it > was so dire that it was a pretty straight forward call. > > > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > Maya, > > Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that > will help your cat?? > > Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send you > some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the mind-set > you have encountered already, is all too common, even when our cats are dying > and there are few realistic alternatives. > > Most of the links I will send to you will not speak to the use of Winstrol > specifically for FeLV, but speak to things like building up strength and > improving appetite. > > Here is the first - very generic. > > > http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/prescription/stanozolol-winstrol > > Amani > > P.S. - I also noticed you are not far from me. My vet is in Etobicoke, in the > outskirts of Toronto. Perhaps your vet should call my vet? > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > -- > > Maya D'Alessio > > PhD student > > B1 377B, x32320 > > Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator > > Biology GSA Vice Chair > > GSA Director At-Large > > University of Waterloo > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
