Thank you so much Amani – it really sounds like you have done your homework!! 
And that’s just it – this happened so fast and took us so off-guard that I 
didn’t have any knowledge of what to do. We took him in on a Sunday night, and 
after putting some “puzzle pieces” together, I think he was getting sick for a 
while and I just did not pick up on it. We had been gone for a couple days, 
then we had company at our house so he was kind of out of sight and I figured 
he just didn’t like the people, when actually he usually loves people. He had 
felt hot a couple of times, but both times he was lying on a window sill with 
the sun shining directly on him. Our regular vet was out so a different animal 
hospital was filling in. They gave him fluids and antibiotics as well as pain 
liquid and sent us home. No blood test.

 

The next day our regular vet did xrays and found an enlarged lymph node 
somewhere near his tummy I think, so that’s why they did the blood work and 
found the FeLV. They were also the ones that did the FeLV test 5 years prior 
when we found him as a kitten. They changed to an antibiotic 10-day shot for 
what they thought was a bite from another cat that we had taken in (who tests 
negative). That cat was a very aggressive player and really made Tigger nervous 
and stressed out so we don’t have her anymore.

 

I am going to read about Winstrol and also talk to both of our vet offices 
about it. The reason I am using two vet offices is because our regular one is 
35 miles away and Tigger has needed to go in sometimes 5 times a week so we 
started taking him to one in our city that Tigger didn’t like very much but now 
they have different vets and they seem nicer to him. They have all apologized 
that they really don’t know much about treating FeLV+ cats and also don’t know 
much about any of the medicines used. (I would think they would want to read up 
on it now that they have a patient needing treatment.) At any rate, I think if 
Tigger can make progress, not only will we be thrilled, but it may change the 
outlook for other cats in the future.

 

Is the Winstrol an immune-booster, or an anti-viral drug? I’m not even sure how 
the Interferon works, or if it does? I asked our vet if Tigger needs another 
blood test because I do not know where his blood counts are, or if it is in his 
bone marrow. I think I now know some additional questions I can be asking.

 

Thank you so much!

Ardy Robertson

Osseo, Wisconsin

 

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

 

Ardy

 

If you do decide to try the Winstrol, get his blood checked before and then 
after a few weeks on the Winstrol. If this works as well for you as it did for 
me, you will want some solid proof to demonstrate its effect. Hopefully, the 
vet will learn, as mine did since I got weekly blood work when Zander was on 
Interferon, then LTCI and then Winstrol. The blood work spoke for itself. 
Again, I have to say I have not seen anything else work so well to increase 
weight, stamina and appetite than the Winstrol so see if your vets will get it 
for you to try out.

 

Amani

 

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-20-15 10:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

 

Hello – can I chime in here a bit? My cat Tigger is on Interferon (7 days on 
then 7 days off and repeat) for FeLV. I think it might be helping but his 
appetite is poor and I have to syringe feed him. Surprisingly a very large 
syringe seems to work better than the small ones. I go slow to make sure I 
don’t choke him and he might aspirate food into his lungs. For his comfort (and 
mind) I fold a heavy bath towel in half and put it around him the same way they 
do to us when we get our hair cut…then I clip it in back with a large office 
binder-clip. He doesn’t feel like I am restraining him and has actually gotten 
used to it, so less stress which is important for FeLV+ cats. Also I do feed 
the critical care food thinned out a bit but when he got constipated, my vet 
had me give him a couple tablespoons of pure pumpkin (no spices) and it worked 
wonderfully. I know he needs calories of good quality, but I think he also 
needs some carbs and bulk in order to keep regular, so I mix some baby food 
chicken (the #1 kind for little babies) and some rice baby cereal with some 
water. He does not seem to mind it. I also give him some water. He has since 
started eating fairly well, but still not drinking as much as he should. He is 
also on the appetite stimulant you mentioned.

 

I had not heard about Winstrol before. The vets in my area have always 
euthanized cats at the first mention of FeLV so treating Tigger is a big of a 
learning experience for both of the offices that I take him to. I believe 
taking him to both clinics is sort of giving him a second opinion and they are 
both telling me they are learning about treating FeLV from him. Thank you very 
much for allowing me to be a part of this group and learn.

Ardy Robertson

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya 
D'Alessio
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

 

Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I will 
pass it along to my vet immediately.

 

He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and 
won't eat, I am assuming his body is not up to those drugs yet. He's currently 
on doxy, prednisolone and mirtazipine (appetite stimulant), and they gave him 
an antinauseant shot last night (cevinia I think).

 

Question to the larger group; my cat is uncomfortable (although better than 
yesterday), I have to force feed him and he's on a ton of drugs. How long is 
this feasible? How long should I let it go if we don't see improvement? How do 
you make that call. With my last cat, she deteriorated so rapidly and it was so 
dire that it was a pretty straight forward call.

 

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com 
<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > wrote:

Maya,

Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that will 
help your cat??

Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send you 
some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the mind-set 
you have encountered already, is all too common, even when our cats are dying 
and there are few realistic alternatives.

Most of the links I will send to you will not speak to the use of Winstrol 
specifically for FeLV, but speak to things like building up strength and 
improving appetite.

Here is the first - very generic.


http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/prescription/stanozolol-winstrol

Amani

P.S. - I also noticed you are not far from me. My vet is in Etobicoke, in the 
outskirts of Toronto. Perhaps your vet should call my vet?

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