Bless you Ken for doing this - I agree. It was very heartening to hear that 
they are using it in Italy!!

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kresch...@mchsi.com
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Good Morningh all--
I've been following the posts to Marlene and others regarding 
Winstrol/Stargate. I began following when my feral-turned-wonderful-domestic 
Tuxedo, Zorro, became ill with FeLV. We tried the Prednisolone route and he 
perked up for a week or so but then just slept more and more as his red count 
bottomed out. I laid next to him as he died and shared that with all of you at 
that time. What I'm writing about now is what we must do for future cats that 
may contract FeLV. I have printed the pertinent information that began with 
Amani and then others regarding Winstrol and Stargate minus any links and email 
addresses. I am taking this info to my Vet and telling her to start her 
research immediately. I will also tell her she could be the first Vet in our 
area to truly treat our kitties with a drug that works. If we all present the 
information we've been sharing we will begin a ground-swell of interest and 
hope.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
help

Prayers for you and your baby.

---- marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Dear all,
> Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
> found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome 
> myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
> What is better, pills or injections? 
> I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
> the liver compared to the injectable one .
> I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
> to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.
> 
> Thanks all for your support.
> Best
> M&M
> 
> Inviato da iPhone
> 
> > Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson 
> > <ar...@centurytel.net> ha scritto:
> > 
> > Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> > his bloodwork..... and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> > stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd 
> > day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that 
> > they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't 
> > remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and 
> > syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like 
> > having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he 
> > had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another 
> > good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam 
> > juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful 
> > that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge against it 
> > because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties have to 
> > suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also important to 
> > combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because the Doxy has 
> > some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. Best of luck 
> > with his treatment!!
> > 
> > Ardy
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > dlg...@windstream.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator 
> > - help
> > 
> > Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> > problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> > 
> > ---- marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
> >> Dear All,
> >> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
> >> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a 
> >> conclusive result). 
> >> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have 
> >> a bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth 
> >> while.
> >> 
> >> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have 
> >> you treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
> >> 
> >> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
> >> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
> >> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
> >> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and 
> >> also whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about 
> >> using doxycycline.
> >> 
> >> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
> >> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is 
> >> not eating ... 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your help 
> >> Marlène  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Inviato da iPhone
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