I should clarify.. I was running with Darcy's scheme of basing the chief on Ab. I would rather base it on a D as D7(b5). This defines it a secondary dominant chord II and will produce a relevant scale related to C major with just the actual 6th altered.
Steve P. On 2 Oct 2011, at 07:37, Steve Parker <[email protected]> wrote: I > I take your point about spelling, although in jazz just about anyone would > write an Ab7(b5) with an D natural rather than an Ebb. > Your other point is precisely why I write b5 to avoid the Eb. > As a jazz player I'm no fan of chord scale theory - it has produce a bunch of > players who seem to have no idea what key they're in while they twitter > through some lovely standard.. ;-( > > Steve P. > > On 2 Oct 2011, at 06:08, Christopher Smith wrote: > >> While that IS a common name, I don't use it because it implies that the 5th >> degree of the chord scale is the altered one, rather than the 4th scale >> degree. Chord symbols in jazz are not only the harmony notes present (like >> figured bass in classical music), they also give information about the chord >> scale for improvisation. Since the chord scale of the Fr6 chord includes >> both the D and the Eb (4th and 5th), I would prefer Ab7(#11) to Ab7(b5). Of >> course, as I mentioned previously, if you are talking about the aug6th >> chords, you are probably NOT talking about a style of music where chord >> scales are important. >> >> Christopher >> >> >> On Sat Oct 1, at SaturdayOct 1 6:35 PM, Steve Parker wrote: >> >>> For the French 6th I would write Ab7(b5) >>> >>> Steve P. >>> >>> On 1 Oct 2011, at 21:52, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Robert: >>>> >>>> In the key of C: >>>> >>>> Ger 6th: Ab7 >>>> Fr 6th: Ab7 (#11) or Ab7 (#4) >>>> It 6th: Ab7 (omit 5) >>>> >>>> In jazz theory, these would all be considered tritone substitutions for >>>> the applied dominant of V (V7 of V). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> - DJA >>>> ----- >>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1 Oct 2011, at 4:16 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there any accepted practice for writing aug 6th chords in a jazz chart? >>>>> For example, in the key of D Maj, a Ger 6th would be enharmonically Bb7, >>>>> but >>>>> is there a more appropriate notation? And what about Fr and It 6th chords? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
