On 12/07/2008 03:50 AM, Martin Spott wrote in part:
>  it really
> makes me wonder why you insist on going with the "facts" 

What, me, facts?  It's just one of my little quirks.

>  it really
> makes me wonder why you insist on going with the "facts" even though
> you were unable to provide any,

1) First of all, that's not true.  On 12/06/2008 05:55 PM, I
 provided an image that could provide factual answers to at 
 least some of the questions that have come up in this thread.
 I asked whether it was the sort of information that was desired.

     If anybody wants to discuss what can and cannot be learned
     from such pictures, please let us know.

2) I'll make you a deal:  I won't question your motives, if
 you will stop questioning mine.

3) But since you asked:  Why should I spend my time and money
 gathering more facts, if you place zero value on the facts
 that I have already provided?

4) Why should I spend my time and money gathering more facts,
 when I asked what facts were wanted and got no reply, and
 indeed was told on 12/06/2008 04:02 PM that facts were of no 
 interest unless they appeared in an authoritative reference 
 manual.

 Apparently facts are more appreciated today, and I encourage
 that ... 

 However ...... The previous question remains:  If somebody 
 could say more precisely what facts are wanted, please let 
 us know.  It would greatly facilitate the task of gathering 
 such facts.  As previously mentioned, possibilities include:
  *) Pitch attitude in level flight at some specified
   indicated airspeed?
  *) Pitch attitude while parked, unoccupied?
  *) Pitch attitude while taxiing, occupied?
  *) Pitch attitude just prior to touchdown?
  *) Degree of landing gear extension/compression?
  *) Lift versus AoA?
  *) Drag versus AoA?
  *) Drag versus flaps?
  *) Incidence versus flaps?
  *) Trim versus flaps?
  *) Trim versus flaps*power? (!)
  *) et cetera?????

If nobody can say what facts are wanted, then maybe we need to 
take a step back and re-examine what problem(s) we are trying 
to solve, and why.


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