On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:10:29 -0500, Curtis wrote in message <CAHtsj_f6u5=_2hgcxdtxho1tvtiup+gex-bphtpciafjy0f...@mail.gmail.com>:
> Hi Geoff (and Arnt, et. al.) > > I have another update to try. This one drives the roll angle by > manipulating the ailerons directly, rather than trying to modify > /controls/flight/SAS-roll. SAS-roll worked for me, and I was just > following the example of the existing f-14b dg-heading controller. > But driving /control/flight/aileron seems to work just as well for > me. If there is some sort of order of execution problem with nasal > or something conflicting with SAS-roll, perhaps this will work > better? I'd be interested in hearing if it helps if anyone gets a > chance to try it. ..roll is _much_ smoother, for Alpha05, copy your success on the elevators too. ..on start-up, I overshoot the altitude by around 4000feet, so now I have time to try the "Go home" button. Wild enough ride, blackouts alternating with redouts, but it climbs out. ..on resets, I still land in the cockpit and are immediately launched into the drink, first run T/O were tracking left on the deck and rolling off it to the left, on my second run, both to the right, as if I had an one side flame-out on the get-go. > Download link for "Alpha04" version and instructions here: > > http://www.flightgear.org/uas-demo/ > > Curt. > > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net> wrote: > > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:54:05 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > > <20110924125405.072bc...@nb6.lan>: > > > > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:06:00 -0500, Curtis wrote in message > > > <CAHtsj_c=qrUGW4=F9PfEMoDGfgdC2yZVK77pp3gE3P=tbjr...@mail.gmail.com>: > > > > > > > Here's one for your guys. Do any nasal errors pop up on the > > > > console when things go bad? Are you able to manually fly the > > > > f-14b (non-uas version) around just fine? > > > > ..yup, even on the eeepc keyboard, one up tap elevator, full power, > > let it roll and wait out the rotation, 2 down taps on the elevator > > to keep the nose down to 15 to 30 degrees, gets it "safely" up at > > 1-2 fps. > > > > > > Once in maybe 20-50 flights I do see something go goofy with the > > > > f-14b stability augmentation's roll control. Maybe this same > > > > issue is popping up less rarely for some people? I haven't dug > > > > into how the SAS is implemented on the f-14b ... it's > > > > intricately woven I can tell ... maybe there's something > > > > lurking down in the guts of the f-14b SAS. > > > > ..or your settings. > > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@c2i.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:44:02 +0200, Citronnier wrote in > > > > > message <4e7cfda2.7060...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > Le 23/09/2011 23:12, Curtis Olson a écrit : > > > > > > > Geoff and Arnt and anyone else who is interested. I just > > > > > > > updated the zip file overlay with a few changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geoff: you may be getting tired of being a bunny, but I > > > > > > > played around with the roll controller and limited max > > > > > > > target roll angle to +/-35 degrees. I also dialed down > > > > > > > the gains a bit on final approach which will hopefully > > > > > > > slow down the wild swings. More adjustment may be > > > > > > > necessary, but I'd be interested in hearing if any of > > > > > > > this helps your situation. > > > > > > > > > > ..a wee bit, now takes off and makes it ~1000 feet up, then it > > > > > rolls to the right and makes it ~200 feet into the drink, and > > > > > repeats the stunt seated in the cockpit (rather than in the > > > > > camera), uncommanded on Reset button pushes. > > > > > > > > > > ..it's trying to orbit the carrier in the vertical plane? > > > > > > > > > > ..trying the operator click mode on targets like the > > > > > merchantman near the Nimitz, works, until the demo is > > > > > airborne, then it picks the Carrier target and tries a > > > > > vertical orbit around it. > > > > > > > > > > ..refetching the merchantman with the operator mouse click > > > > > mode, dives the demo into the drink between the 2 vessels. > > > > > > > > > > ..debug idea for Curtis: try the Nimitz too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also set the default carrier speed to zero so if we get > > > > > > > a few people out there playing around with this, we > > > > > > > should be able to see each other via MP. That could be > > > > > > > an additional fun element. I was just out there dodging > > > > > > > XIII who trailed me around the pattern and let me live > > > > > > > thankfully. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the link with the zip file overlay download + > > > > > > > installation and operation instructions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org/uas-demo/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MP Call Sign: Shrike :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Woot :-) so I missed the update, I just read this post after > > > > > > posting the previous one. And was wondering who was flying > > > > > > around there ! Model view ought to be interesting in case of > > > > > > one other tester just encounter problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexis > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe see a few of you out there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Citronnier - Alexis Bory > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 23/09/2011 16:47, Curtis Olson a écrit : > > > > > > > > Hi Geoff, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm starting to run low on ideas here. I assume you > > > > > > > > don't have any crazy/severe turbulence turned on or > > > > > > > > your plots would be all > > > > > > > over the > > > > > > > > place. Are you running out of fuel and your engines > > > > > > > > dying? If you open the autopilot dialog (F11) you > > > > > > > > can see the target speed and if you have the hud > > > > > > > > turned on you can see the actual speed in any view. > > > > > > > > If you are circling with a target speed of 150 and > > > > > > > > your airspeed is less than than and you are > > > > > > > > decending, then definitely check your engine > > > > > > > > output. There is a fuel dialog box under the f-14b > > > > > > > > menu and you might double check that to see if you > > > > > > > > have any fuel in your > > > > > > > tanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For what it's worth, I'm rock solid in circling and > > > > > > > > the only time I have ever stalled out of the sky or > > > > > > > > really got out of kilter is when I've had severe > > > > > > > > turbulence turned on. Moderate turbulence at all > > > > > > > > levels is actually pretty interesting because > > > > > > > > despite getting thrown all over the sky, I still > > > > > > > > hit the carrier deck pretty spot on > > > > > > > every time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still no tests yet but just a though, In normal use > > > > > > > (without the UAV script) I know that after TO (flaps down) > > > > > > > you have to rise the flaps in > > > > > > > before engaging the attitude autopilot mode. If you > > > > > > > rise the flaps after > > > > > > > engaging attitude autopilot mode, the a/c start to > > > > > > > pitch up consistently. This has to be documented or > > > > > > > fixed. I'll try to bring the > > > > > > > maintainer to his workstation ASAP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Geoff McLane wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Curt, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, removed my joystick, and entered a '5', but > > > > > > > > still crashed while just in 'circle' mode - no > > > > > > > > route entered ;=(( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual Atlas provides a good 'view' as to > > > > > > > > what happened - added - > > > > > > > > ATLAS="--atlas=socket,out,<IP>,5500,udp" > > > > > > > > to output to Atlas running in a 2nd machine... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See - > > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-01.jpg > > > > > > > > for a graph of the flight... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The two blips in the graphs show the first > > > > > > > > stall, but it recovers and begins to climb back, > > > > > > > > and the 2nd the second stall, this time too low to > > > > > > > > recover, so into the drink ;=(( CRASH! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a view of the 'crazy' flight track > > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-02.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously the pig-tail loops are the 'stalls'... > > > > > > > > remember with NO joystick attached and starting > > > > > > > > with centered controls (NumPad 5)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if you want to load this track into Atlas, > > > > > > > > or further study speeds, etc, then this is the > > > > > > > > Atlas track data :- > > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-01.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then on the NEXT flight I tried :- > > > > > > > > IO="--generic=file,out,10,uas-02.csv,playback" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I added a header line, to help analyze > > > > > > > > it in say an OpenOffice spreadsheet import - > > > > > > > > see - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/uas-02.csv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On this 2nd flight, this crash took longer, > > > > > > > > since it (randomly) turned left first, where as > > > > > > > > mentioned it holds more stable, but then eventually > > > > > > > > went into a right turn, stalled, recovered, stalled > > > > > > > > again, and CRASHED... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And as you know well, downloading this file, and > > > > > > > > using say - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $ ./fgfs --fg-root=/point/to/fgfs/data > > > > > > > > --timeofday=noon \ --aircraft=f-14b-uas > > > > > > > > --carrier=Vinson \ > > > > > > > > --generic=file,in,10,uas-02.csv,playback > > > > > > > > --fdm=external > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you too can enjoy this fateful flight ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 'chase' view, you can clearly see the right > > > > > > > > roll increase, the nose coming up, and the stall, > > > > > > > > recovery, then repeated, and BANG, into the water... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is difficult to work on, debug, fix > > > > > > > > something that obviously does not happen in your > > > > > > > > case... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe if you do not enter any route, or > > > > > > > > something... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is all with SG/FG git of 2011-09-14... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 14:00 -0500, Curtis Olson > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Geoff McLane > > > > > > > > > wrote: Hi Curt, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pleasure, and FUN ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I know a low frame rate can play > > > > > > > > > havoc when you are trying to fine control an > > > > > > > > > aircraft from its attitude feedback, and I should > > > > > > > > > have mentioned my rate, but is always in the high > > > > > > > > > 50-70 fps range in this Ubuntu machine... so > > > > > > > > > should NOT be a factor... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, 50-70 should be perfect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just did another few runs, and this > > > > > > > > > time it crashed just while circling... it was in > > > > > > > > > a right bank, which got too much and the nose > > > > > > > > > came up, and it stalled... I am mostly in the > > > > > > > > > 'chase' view... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is really strange. I have seen nothing like > > > > > > > > > this except > > > > > > > when I > > > > > > > > > inadvertantly applied external control inputs > > > > > > > > > through a strange combination of linux virtual > > > > > > > > > desktops and flightgear capturing the hotkey to > > > > > > > > > come back to the FlightGear virtual desktop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So two thoughts here. If you have a joystick > > > > > > > > > connected, could > > > > > > > > you try > > > > > > > > > unplugging it to see if that helps? Could you > > > > > > > > > also press "5" > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > numeric keypad to make sure all the flight control > > > > > > > > > inputs are centered. Because of the way the > > > > > > > > > F-14b FCS is wired together in combination with > > > > > > > > > the yasim flight surfaces, you can still input > > > > > > > > > elevator and aileron and trim and cause conflicts > > > > > > > > > that you > > > > > > > might not > > > > > > > > > see in other simpler aircraft that use aileron and > > > > > > > > > elevator > > > > > > > > directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first time this happened at 2000 > > > > > > > > > feet, it caught itself - leveled a bit and bumped > > > > > > > > > the throttles, and began climbing back... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a little later, 20-30 secs, it > > > > > > > > > happened again, and this time was still too low > > > > > > > > > to recover, and SPLASH... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had not previously let it fly in the > > > > > > > > > 'circle' mode for too long, but now note if I > > > > > > > > > leave it in circling mode, it will eventually end > > > > > > > > > up in the water... seldom lasts more than 5 or 10 > > > > > > > > > minutes... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to be deliberately holding its > > > > > > > > > speed down around 150 - I see air-brakes come up > > > > > > > > > when greater than this, and throttle back - and > > > > > > > > > although flaps (I think full flap?) are still > > > > > > > > > applied, 150 must be quite 'low' for this sleek > > > > > > > > > bird... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Normal landing approach in the real aircraft I > > > > > > > > > believe is > > > > > > > about 120 > > > > > > > > > kts? I fly 135 kt approaches in the simulator. > > > > > > > > > It should be > > > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > > hold 150 kts with the flaps down pretty easily. > > > > > > > > > The point of > > > > > > > > slowing > > > > > > > > > way down when circling is to keep the circle > > > > > > > > > radius small > > > > > > > enough so > > > > > > > > > you can see what you are looking at. If you fly > > > > > > > > > the circle at 600 kts, your radius will be 20 > > > > > > > > > miles (just guessing) :-) and you > > > > > > > > won't be > > > > > > > > > able to see anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I am not sure how many degrees each > > > > > > > > > marking on the hud bottom bank indicator > > > > > > > > > represents, and while it starts the banking in > > > > > > > > > between the 1 and 2 of the 'big' > > > > > > > > marks, > > > > > > > > > at the stall point it is beyond the 2nd > > > > > > > > > big mark, > > > > > > > > approaching, > > > > > > > > > even reaching the 3rd big mark, which is > > > > > > > > > on the horizontal - ie 90 degrees! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the moment of stall it loses 1200-1400 > > > > > > > > > feet in 1-3 seconds... while it can happen in a > > > > > > > > > right or left turn, it does seem to happen > > > > > > > > > quicker in a right turn... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I now understand the 'reset' is a full sim > > > > > > > > > reset, but that is not too helpful if you have > > > > > > > > > set up say a particular weather, wind or > > > > > > > > > something that you want to repeat... must get > > > > > > > > > around to feeding that in, in the command, so a > > > > > > > > > reset puts it back (I hope)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well complain to the developers if a "reset" > > > > > > > > > resets too agressively. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you could describe a bit more where > > > > > > > > > some of this is decided/calculated I too could > > > > > > > > > try tweaking some values... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would probably bump the speed a little, > > > > > > > > > and really watch the bank angle... those stubby > > > > > > > > > little wings do not give much lift anyway, but > > > > > > > > > the slender body gives close to none ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned, I too have more than a > > > > > > > > > passing interest in automated flight control... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: OT: I too searched a little for the > > > > > > > > > expression to be a 'bunny', but could not really > > > > > > > > > find anything ;=(( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure it comes from my Australian > > > > > > > > > origin, and has the meaning to take the rap, take > > > > > > > > > the medicine, sort of to be the guinea pig... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I can understand that. Here we test > > > > > > > > > cosmetics on little > > > > > > > bunnies > > > > > > > > > (so I'm told) but I'm sure we have to shave all > > > > > > > > > their hair off > > > > > > > > first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why poor little bunny rabbits feature I > > > > > > > > > just do not know ;=)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe from when Australia had a big war on > > > > > > > > > rabbits _MANY_ years ago, and put out > > > > > > > > > millions of traps for the bunnies, as well as > > > > > > > > > other methods, like poisons - myxomatosis... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So to be a bunny was to be trapped ;=(()) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe other Australian's have a better > > > > > > > > > memory than me, and can explain it better, but > > > > > > > > > meantime I will blame my parents, or the > > > > > > > > > Australian educational system, for giving me such > > > > > > > > > a stupid expression ;=() > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On reading up on 'to be a Guinea Pig', > > > > > > > > > another very confusing expression - not really a > > > > > > > > > 'pig' and not from Guinea! - I found a reference > > > > > > > > > that in Johnston's Natural History, they go by > > > > > > > > > the name Spanish Coney. And 'coney' was the old > > > > > > > > > name for a rabbit, a bunny... Huh! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Peru Guinea Pig is a delicacy ... cui ... > > > > > > > > > never had it myself > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > I'm aware of. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the early immigrants to Australia > > > > > > > > > decided to mix it up even more! ;=)) Or got it > > > > > > > > > confused on the long boat ride half way around the > > > > > > > > > world... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well just to summarize, if your frame rates are > > > > > > > > > solid in the > > > > > > > 30-60+ > > > > > > > > > range, then the next thing I'm wondering about is > > > > > > > > > a joystick or > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > means of extraneous control inputs that could be > > > > > > > > > confusing the > > > > > > > F-14b > > > > > > > > > AFCS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curt. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Curtis Olson: > > > > > > > > > http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org - > > > > > > > > > http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT > > > > > > > > infrastructure is seriously valuable. > > > > > > > > Why? It contains a definitive record of > > > > > > > > application performance, security > > > > > > > > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk > > > > > > > > takes this > > > > > > > data and > > > > > > > > makes > > > > > > > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Curtis Olson: > > > > > > > > http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org - > > > > > > > > http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure > > > > > > > > is seriously > > > > > > > valuable. > > > > > > > > Why? It contains a definitive record of application > > > > > > > > performance, > > > > > > > security > > > > > > > > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes > > > > > > > > this data > > > > > > > and makes > > > > > > > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > > > > > > > seriously valuable. > > > > > > > Why? It contains a definitive record of application > > > > > > > performance, security > > > > > > > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes > > > > > > > this data and makes > > > > > > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > <mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Curtis Olson: > > > > > > > http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ > > > > > > > <http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/> > > > > > > > http://www.flightgear.org - > > > > > > > http://gallinazo.flightgear.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > > > > > > > seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record > > > > > > > of application performance, security threats, fraudulent > > > > > > > activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > > > > > > > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > > > > > > seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of > > > > > > application performance, security threats, fraudulent > > > > > > activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense > > > > > > of it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > > > > > seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of > > > > > application performance, security threats, fraudulent > > > > > activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of > > > > > it. IT sense. And common sense. > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously > > valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application > > performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. > > Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common > > sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > > _______________________________________________ > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
