Hal V. Engel schrieb:
> This still tells me that something is up.  The C172 should be farily easy to 
> fly even for a noob pilot at least once you are in the air.  Once in the air 
> you should be able to trim it up and then let go of the stick and only have 
> it wonder gradually from it's current flight path.  Once trimmed you should 
> be able to hold it on a given flight path by touching the stick every 10 to 
> 15 seconds to make very minor corrections.  If you can't do that then either 
> there is something wrong with your trimming techneque or there is something 
> wrong with your stick (or both). 
>
>   
>> This is Saitek Cyborg EVO Force - could it be the force part since
>> Flightgear doesn't support force and MS does causing issues - or does
>> FlightGear support force???
>>     
>
>   
Hi,

no question, the FlightGear C172 really is very easy to fly and to land.
This all *must* be a controller problem.
1.
Did you ever try to display the HUD ("h") and have a look at the axis?
Are they all centered when you have you controller centered? Do they
move right when you move your joystick? Is the rudder axis centered?
2.
Did you change the Saitek EVO  XML file and put the name of your FORCE
version in there?
These are the names of my evo-xml-file:
<name>Saitek Cyborg USB Stick</name>
<name>Saitek Cyborg Evo</name>
<name>Saitek Cyborg evo Wireless</name>
Might be your FORCE version does NOT use this predefined XML file?
3.
How does the Cessna fly if you unplug your joystick and use the mouse?
Or even better, ask a fried who ownes another joystick to test it with
FlightGear/the Cessna.

Regards
Georg EDDW

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