Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> On 18.04.2008 12:48:53 Vincent Hennebert wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> A few comments:
>>
>> - some time ago I created a BreakUtil class in the o.a.f.util package.
>>   I think this class and KeepUtil should be put in the same place.
>>   Perhaps we could even merge them into a unique KeepsAndBreaksUtil
>>   class. I don’t really know what the best place would be. I put it in
>>   o.a.f.util because it already contains all sorts of utility classes,
>>   but o.a.f.layoutmgr would also make sense. WDYT?
>
> Whatever.

I let you choose, but please take care of this.


>> - it would be better to create the testcases such that the rendering
>>   will become wrong if the feature is broken. For example, put the block
>>   at the bottom of the page, such that it gets deferred to the next page
>>   if keep is working, and split over 2 pages if keep is broken. Exactly
>>   like you did in block_keep-together_integers_1.xml.
>>   There are 2 reasons for this:
>>   - just because the element list looks ok doesn’t ensure that the
>>     rendering will be fine. Actually a recent post on fop-users [1]
>>     shows that.
>
> We've had the other case, too: Rendering looked fine but the element
> list was wrong and lead to bad break decisions. I'm not sure if your
> example is a good one.

At least it shows that testing only one thing is not enough.


>>   - if the generation of Knuth elements is changed somehow, all the
>>     testcases must be adapted accordingly. I had to do that several
>>     times when working on tables in the past months, and this is really
>>     painful. Tests on Knuth elements should be reserved for special
>>     situations IMO.
>
> I'm doing unit testing here, or at least as "unit" testing as possible.
> What you're talking about is component testing and larger. I want to
> make sure that the element list is correct and I trust that the breaking
> algorithm does the right thing because it is already tested elsewhere. I
> completely disagree that element list test should be reserved for
> special situations. Or else this is exactly such a special situation for
> me.

Fair enough.

Vincent


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