Dear Fop-Devs,

since I am one of the people cited for moving forward to 1.5, I just
want to throw my 2 cts in the mix:

I would prefer a new release first, and then moving to 1.5.

Rationale:

1) Retroweaving works, but there will be some bugs which will have to
be ironed out and tested. The last release (0.95) has been done quite
a long time back, and the next release will take even longer when a
new "feature" (1.5) is added.

2) Since the 0.9x releases are "test-releases" towards 1.0, they
should have the same features / requirements.

3) The next release (1.0.9x ? 1.9x?) could then depend on 1.5, whereas
the 1.0 branch could stay on 1.4

As an example from another apache project: Maven moved from 2.1.0 to
2.2.0 rather than 2.1.x because they now require java 1.5 and did not
want to make this a "minor" upgrade"

Max

2009/8/20 Simon Pepping <[email protected]>:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 02:14:39PM +0100, Chris Bowditch wrote:
>> Jeremias Maerki wrote:
>> >There we go again. ;-) I can understand the wishes and cravings of the
>> >developers (feeling them myself), but as I've said before: such a
>> >decision should be made with the user community in the back, i.e. there
>> >should be another user survey to gather current data. Just because Sun
>> >EOLs a Java version doesn't mean that everyone can suddenly just do the
>> >switch. So why don't those who want this change so badly do that little
>> >survey so we have the data on an informed decision?
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm not so against this idea 1 year further on but I still have
>> concerns that we would force x% of users to stay on 0.95 if we do
>> this. I agree with Jeremias' proposal to run a survey on fop-users
>> for a couple of weeks to get some hard facts to help make an
>> informed decision.
>>
>> Also, I think it is something that could wait until after the long
>> promised 1.0 release. With the changing IPD feature being one of the
>> last major features of 0.20.x missing from 0.9x that is now
>> available we should consider doing the v1.0 release and then if the
>> survey shows the number of 1.4 and earlier users to be very low then
>> we should do the switch.
>
> I agree that we should proceed with a 1.0 release.
>
> I can also agree with releasing it compliant with Java 1.4.
>
> I note, however, that the methods I removed were several methods in
> class Character which are very useful in character handling, such as
> the method Character.toChars(int), which is the main method to convert
> an integer to an array of chars. That means that for Unicode values
> above 0xFFFF there is no good method to turn the value into a char[]
> or String. Also Characters.toLowerCase, toUpperCase, toTitleCase,
> getType, $UnicodeBlock. For a text handling application in 2009 that
> is a bit painful.
>
> Simon
>
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