Wouldn't the issue be with mail-archive.com, not with anyone who happens
to publish a URL pointing to mail-archive.com.  If mail-archive.com is
archiving posts and making them public without the permission of the
Framers list owners, then they are the ones in violation of copyright.
Someone posting a URL is not in violation of copyright.


Regards,
Seraphim
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-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces+theorem37=gmail....@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+theorem37=gmail.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:44 AM
To: Jakob Fix
Cc: Framers List
Subject: Re: add Framers list to gmane.org?

I don't see anything in the archive site that implies that FM posts are
not
still copyright by the author.

Art

On 1/26/06, Jakob Fix <jakob.fix at gmail.com> wrote:
> Art,
>
> I know I should refrain from replying ... but ... can't ... must ...
answer. :-)
>
> On 26/01/06, Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jakob,
> >
> > I believe, if you read the copyright notice on frameusers.com, you
> > will see that ownership of posts is retained by the author. And I
> > would submit that because the content of the site is copyrighted as
a
> > body, that body-of-work further documents each posting as belonging
to
> > the author.
>
> Let's see:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers at lists.frameusers.com/msg00795.html
>
> How much is this link worth?  And who does it belong to?  Rick?  The
> Framers mailing list? The mail-archive.com people?  Just talking about
> the link, mind you.
>
> These are really interesting questions, and I won't think we will find
> a satisfying answer ("42" anyone?), but I also think nobody will be
> able to tell whether or not I put these links in an internal document
> or not.  So I think I'm safe, for the moment :-).
>
> --
> cheers,
> Jakob.
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