Joe just said what I was thinking -- and more articulately than I think I might have been. Jakob's thought was good, but the implementation has risks that appear not to have been thouroughly considered. (No fault there; I suspect that we've all been in that position -- I know that I certainly have!)
The fact that we are able to have this conversation shows a degree of consideration and civility that is really refreshing. Thanks! Grant ___________________________________________ Grant Hogarth Equis International - A Reuters Company ghogarth at Equis.com / Grant.Hogarth at Reuters.com Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180 Main Fax: 801.265.3999 -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters....@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joe Malin Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:11 AM To: Jakob Fix; Framers List Subject: RE: add Framers list to gmane.org? Dear Jakob, I'm glad that you received useful information from the list. I have had exactly the same experience. I applaud your thought of sharing this bounty. However, using gmane.org, you can not do this fairly without contacting each person who signed up to Framers and asking each of them for permission to do it. If anyone refuses, you can not do it, period. I think other list users would agree. When anyone signs up for an e-mail list, they share information to that list. By doing that, they accept the list's privacy policy. I don't see a link to it on FrameUsers.com, but I'm sure one exists, if not in writing then in the minds of the lists' administrators. If you then put the e-mail list into any tool that exposes it beyond its intended audience, you've violated the privacy policy. I won't get into the legal aspects of this, since I'm sure another respondent will (if it hasn't happened already). Though your intentions are quite good, I am writing to remind you that you can't control gmane.org. If you want to publicize framers list, then publicize it and make individuals sign up for it. That forces them to break the barrier of anonymity. That is the right, honorable, and decent way to share information online. I hope that you will consider it in this light and do the right thing. Joe Joe Malin
