My auto spell check made a funny  “Avant Garden”  I like it…….
its mine so don’t steal it…….
probably already has been discovered….I will check…..


> On Nov 9, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Myron Ort <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> To me there is the interesting question regarding which avant garden or 
> experimental films obtained the rights for the music. Some maybe not at first 
> but maybe later if the film became more widely known.
> 
> Not jazz, but I wondered if Kenneth Anger had the rights to all that pop 
> music when Scorpio Rising first came out, likewise Bruce Conner’s “Cosmic 
> Ray”, now that Bruce is blue chip museum material I am sure they have the 
> obtained the rights especially since the major power of that film is the Ray 
> Charles music but I have my doubts about those rights when first the film 
> came out.   Harry Smith just put on his favorite album at the time Monk or 
> whatever, likewise the early films of Joseph Cornell.  Smith’s early 
> compilation of American Folk Music was likely very casual about rights at 
> first, just using his collection of rare old 78 rpm material.  Does anyone 
> actually know facts relating to all this. I think at some point I did read 
> that Anger said he had rights to the pop music, but not exactly sure if that 
> was true at the beginning.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Ryan Marino <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Albert,
>> 
>> The White Rose by Bruce Conner features music from Miles Davis's Sketches of 
>> Spain. 
>> 
>> 
>> best,
>> ryan
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Ignacio Tamarit <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Osias Wilenski "El Perseguidor" (1965)
>> 
>> Not strictly experimental, but rather experimental for Argentine fiction 
>> feature films of the time.
>> Based on the homonymous short story by Julio Cortazar, inspired by the life 
>> of Charlie Parker.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WwxYPhORzg 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WwxYPhORzg>
>> 
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>> 2017-11-09 13:34 GMT-03:00 Beebe, Roger W. <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> I think I saw Michael Snow’s name invoked somewhere in this thread, but I 
>> don’t think anyone mentioned that he is himself a jazz musician.  I saw a 
>> show at Hallwall’s in Buffalo years ago where Snow where they included a 
>> piece called REVERBERLIN made of footage of a performance of his ensemble 
>> CCMC:
>> 
>> http://www.hallwalls.org/media-arts/4675.html 
>> <http://www.hallwalls.org/media-arts/4675.html>
>> 
>> FYI,
>> Roger
>> 
>>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Esperanza Collado <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Albert,
>>> 
>>> What a great thread! Did anyone mention Shirley Clark? Can't remember the 
>>> title. 
>>> 
>>> Also, some of the animated films of Suzan Pitt use jazz music. Asparagus 
>>> for sure.
>>> 
>>> You may want to check Christopher McLain's works too... i could be wrong.
>>> 
>>> Will keep thinking...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> El El jue, 9 nov 2017 a las 16:42, tanya g <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:
>>> Albert,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for initiating this thread. I apologize if this was already 
>>> mentioned but in my research I came across two others: Surprise Boogie 
>>> (1956) direted by Albert Pierru and sponsored film Skyscraper by Clarke and 
>>> Van Dyke from 1959, if memory serves.
>>> 
>>> Two non-avant garde that may be nonetheless of interest are:
>>> 
>>> Cry of Jazz (Ed Bland, 1959)
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_of_Jazz 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_of_Jazz>
>>> 
>>> Jammin' The Blues (1944)
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIFJ81RIyVk 
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIFJ81RIyVk>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2017-11-09 at 10.40.43 AM.png>
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:13 AM, Albert Alcoz <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering about the connections between jazz music and avant-garde 
>>> film after watching Bridges-Go-Round (1958) by Shirley Clarke, with the 
>>> soundtrack version created by Teo Macero.
>>> 
>>> There should be plenty of avant-garde and experimental films where the 
>>> soundtrack is instrumental jazz music. Maybe the field of Visual Music 
>>> should be the most represented but i'm sure there are other films like the 
>>> one by Michael Snow that uses, in this case, free jazz music or 
>>> improvisation.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with jazz soundtracks? 
>>> 
>>> Right my list is as follows:
>>> 
>>> Begone Dull Care (1949) by Norman McLaren. Music by Oscar Peterson
>>> 
>>> Films No. 1 (1948) by Harry Smith. Music by Dizzy Gillespie
>>> 
>>> Chasse des Touches (1959) by Hy Hirsh. Music by Thelonious Monk
>>> 
>>> Catalog (1961) by John Whitney. Music by Ornette Coleman
>>> 
>>> New York Eye and Ear Control (1964) by Michael Snow. Music by Albert Ayler, 
>>> Don Cherry, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Albert Alcoz
>>> 
>>> 
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