PS... "10 SPEED" and "Teen Vampire Girl from Hell" are the 2 films I made on here on the KEM Flatbed.
https://www.youtube.com/user/SketchyWinston/videos <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 7:05 PM Ben Winston <sketchyb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey I'm Ben. I'm 26 years old and am based in Atlanta GA. I'm originally > from San Francisco where I did a lot of film editing on a KEM flatbed. I > have some links to my work below if you are interested. There is a lot to > the process to explain over email but I can try to help the best I can. > Film editing is a blast, especially when youre throwing sound in the mix. > Two tools you need are a grease pencil and a sharpie for the soundtrack. > Grease pencils dont show up well on Mag stock. Basically you will be > marking up your film a lot to make cuts and to sync it up with the sound if > you are doing that. > > What I like to to is go through all the footage and cut every shot out and > hang it on the bin you are using with its Mag sound counterpart if you are > using sync sound recorded on set or whatever. If you are using a slate > while shooting, that is where your first sync mark will go when the clap > board claps. I usually mark that with an X on the film and sound and write > the shot number on the sound only because the shot number should be on your > slate on the work print. Then I usually put another sync mark in the middle > of the shot somewhere with an O or dot because the slate will eventually be > cut out and you will loose your sync mark. I also put lines in to > generally mark where the cuts will be just to get an idea of where I'm > gonna cut the shot. The sound will always be cut to overlap the shot before > and after so you can fade them in and out while mixing later on. You should > have 2 sound tracks and every other shot will be on a different track so > the sound can seamlessly fade into one another. It gets tricky and I can go > on forever but thats just the beginning. Theres whole books on the subject > which you should definitely look up. > > To me film editing is important because I just love to do it. I love to > physically touch the film and it makes you think more about the cuts you > make before you make em. It feels more like making a real movie to me. > Computer editing to me kinda cheapens the whole experience of film making > although I've been forced to lately because I dont have access to any of > that equipment here in Georgia. One day though I will. Also if you get into > optical printing, That shits a blast too. Thats for special FX like > superimposed titles and transitions and a lot lot more. > > When I was doing all this, it was at a college. It took up a ton of space. > KEM flatbeds are huge, the Mag dubber is huge and I had about 50 film boxes > all over the floor. I took up a big part of the lab which used to annoy the > techs but I was the only person using the shit anyway so it didnt matter. > > I still only shoot 16mm film and I just recently finished my 1st feature > which I unfortunately had to edit on my computer. The film still came out > pretty good though for the budget and resources I had. Eventually I'd like > to own all my own film editing tools and make independent films for the > rest of my life. Anyway, If you have any more questions, let me know. > Here's my dang youtube page. > > https://www.youtube.com/user/SketchyWinston/videos > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > <#m_4211191087926735919_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 5:45 PM Fred Camper <f...@fredcamper.com> wrote: > >> i was glad to hear of your interesting topic. I trust *The Man With the >> Movie Camera* is included? >> Fred Camper >> >> Chicago >> >> >> On 12/1/2018 1:24 PM, mstark...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Thanks for your feedback. It has been very helpful! I stand corrected. I >> somewhat thoughtlessly rushed into sending out the survey without checking >> definitions, as what I meant to find out about is about people editing film >> in a physical non-computerised way, not video tape, just photochemical film >> in any format. >> >> I’d be interested to know how this discussion list would think this would >> be best described. I think it is better to leave the linear out of it and >> just term it as ‘editing photochemical film’? >> >> Just to add that I am in the final year of a practice as research PhD >> investigating historical relationships between filmmaking and textile >> practice, testing through performance the hypothesis that film can be >> compared to fabric and editing to stitching. I will submit a performance >> and a written thesis so the survey will be help with the literature and >> practice review, as I’m interested to know about artists who continue to >> edit film physically, what their process is and ideas about why they do it. >> >> All best, >> >> Mary >> >> On 30 Nov 2018, at 02:37, Christopher Ball <cbifi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I remember doing sound mixing with 4 U-matic machines, running them all >> together until they drifted out of sync while mixing audio. I also editing >> running 2 U-matics together and punching in on the record machine when I >> wanted the cut to happen. What a difference now. Mind you, film editing >> was not hard and puts you in a much better headspace than computer editing. >> >> Christopher >> >> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:34 PM Colinet André <colinet.an...@coditel.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> of course you are right with this approach. >>> >>> I’m talking about another definition of “non-linear” which is also >>> correct. >>> >>> Anyhow I made a lot of linear analogue video editing and every time you >>> had to copy to start a new version until the quality was so bad you had to >>> go back to the originals with the timecodes. >>> >>> >>> >>> Verzonden vanuit Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> >>> voor Windows 10 >>> >>> >>> >>> *Van: *Adam Hyman <a...@lafilmforum.org> >>> *Verzonden: *vrijdag 30 november 2018 2:04 >>> *Aan: *Experimental Film Discussion List >>> <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>> *Onderwerp: *Re: [Frameworks] Linear film editing >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I learned in film school during the transition period that what Dave >>> says is correct >>> >>> Editing with celluloid is non-linear; early video editing was linear due >>> to the assembly reason that Dave describes; non-linear digital editing was >>> a return to the non-linear editing of celluloid. >>> >>> We could have a poll though. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *FrameWorks <frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com> on behalf >>> of Colinet André <colinet.an...@coditel.net> >>> *Reply-To: *"Experimental Film Discussion List < >>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>> *Date: *Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 4:44 PM >>> *To: *"Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" >>> <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Frameworks] Linear film editing >>> >>> >>> >>> *I don’t agree with Dave.* >>> >>> *Linear editing means physical linear structuring of film or video >>> footage.* >>> >>> *Non linear editing means virtual editing of footage because it’s only a >>> editing list with software.* >>> >>> *All the best !!* >>> >>> *Colinet André* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Verzonden vanuit Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> >>> voor Windows 10 >>> >>> >>> >>> *Van: *Dave Tetzlaff <djte...@gmail.com> >>> *Verzonden: *donderdag 29 november 2018 22:50 >>> *Aan: *Experimental Film Discussion List >>> <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>> *Onderwerp: *Re: [Frameworks] Linear film editing >>> >>> >>> >>> > I'm interested in 'linear film editing', as in cutting and splicing >>> film at an edit bench or Steenbeck or however you do it. >>> >>> >>> >>> That’s not linear editing. Physical film editing is non-linear, which >>> means you can edit anywhere in the piece you want by winding the reels to >>> that spot. Linear editing was how editing in VIDEO was performed >>> pre-computerization. That is, you had to add each shot sequentially from >>> beginning to to end, in that order, and once you got to, say, shot 5, you >>> couldn’t go back and trim the cut between 1 and 2 without starting over. >>> >>> >>> >>> Needless to say, linear editing is a pain in the ass, and anyone who had >>> ever editied film found it extremely frustrating and limitiing. Thus >>> non-linear video editing was invented by commercial filmmakers after video >>> became integrated into feature film produstion via special effects and >>> ‘workprinting’. For example, one of the earliest experimental systems, the >>> Editdroid, was built by Lucasfilm in the early ‘80s. In fact, before the >>> term ‘non-linear editing’ came into common use in the 1990s, these systems >>> were called ‘electronic film editing’, because they gave editors working >>> with video footage the same flexibility that physical film editing had >>> always offered. >>> >>> >>> >>> You have checked your definitions before creating your survey… >>> >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-linear_editing_system#History >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing >> listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > <#m_4211191087926735919_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >
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