G'day,

To everyone involved, including those I've already spoken to privately.

I think the best thing you all can do is talk to the FreeBSD
Foundation about your views and uses for FreeBSD/Xen.

I'm sure the foundation would be interested in donations towards
FreeBSD in general and I hope that enough interest -and- donations
with a voiced interest in Xen will gently prod them into kicking the
support into shape and then invest into keeping it up to date.



Adrian

2009/8/22 Florian Heigl <florian.he...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> for over 3 years we're now looking at a mostly-working, breaking,
> half-working port, breaking, half-working of FreeBSD to xen.
> personally I think this is a very sad state, especially considering how well
> FreeBSD (-current, with patches) worked in Xen 2.
>
> I wonder if starting a fundraiser (like the ones initiated by rsync.net)
> might help this problem.
> I think we would have to scratch up enough for a month of kip's (or someone
> else's) time to see everything addressed and the xen patches finally being
> merged in a sane way like NetBSD did it.
>
> Assuming that most people do not very much care about their dom0 OS, but
> strongly care for running FreeBSD (instead of Linux, NetBSD, Solaris
> flavours) for their virtualized servers, it would be the best way to go to
> make almost everyone happy.
>
> Please note that I don't represent a company but would still scratch up
> money or donate some bunch of hardware to this end because I'm completely
> sick of having to tell people (in #freebsd.de, in some forums and, worst of
> all, even on trade fairs when helping at the FreeBSD booth) that "it used to
> be working but right now it's not stable for production use, but it might
> actually build right now" and point them at one of the above OS according to
> their needs, when actually they'd just love FreeBSD.
>
> Honestly, I do not believe this state will *ever* get better without some
> massive effort and I'm very much looking forward to some discussion about
> this. It think the support should get -stable'd while the linux kids are
> still trying to make ZFS work stable :)
>
> I'll scratch up $150 (or the same in hardware), so if a few more people and
> 1-2 companies chime in it might be enough to make:
> NO new features, just fix it and properly merge it into the amd64 and i386
> archs.
>
> a nice weekend to you all,
> florian
>
>
>
> --
> 'Sie brauchen sich um Ihre Zukunft keine Gedanken zu machen'
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