14 years used to be the time for patents, not copyrights.  Copyrights have 
always been valid for much longer than patents, and I belive the current US law 
is something like the life of the author plus 50 years, or some such nonsense. 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: solarflow99 [mailto:solarflo...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:19 PM
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] [BUG] FreeDOS not compatible with 
> escape [NEW]
> 
> you know when it comes to licenses and patents, the SPA told 
> me years ago, they can only copyright software for 14 years, 
> after that you can leagally pir8 it:)  I wonder if this still 
> holds true, but like you say... its abandonware so who cares.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Michael Reichenbach 
> <michael_reichenb...@freenet.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>       Eric Auer schrieb:
>       > Hi Michael,
>       >
>       >>> I do not think we should use code reversed from MS 
> DOS sorry.
>       >> I think that too but it's no problem to reverse engineer the
>       >> specification as long you write your own 
> implementation from scratch.
>       >>
>       >> Also the linux guys reverse engineered for example 
> the Windows
>       >> networking protocol and implemented it their self (samba).
>       >
>       > They checked the protocol (transferred data) not the binary.
>       > It is kind of more noble to just sniff network contents and
>       > keep the software as it is, a black box with closed source.
>       >
>       > As DOS is no server, I think it is okay to look for example
>       > at data structures and how they change over time. This does
>       > leave the binary / machine code in nice black box land :-).
>       >
>       >> You could even look into their sources for 
> interoperability reasons
>       >
>       > No because then I would have to "steal them" by downloading
>       > them from a dark source.
>       
>       You can download them tell the police/microsoft, make a 
> self-accusation
>       and see if you get sued, I highly doubt it.
>       
>       Anyway,
>       - the one who uploaded the ms source code violated law and his
>       employment contract
>       - the one who provides a download for the ms source 
> code (distribution)
>       is not allowed to distribute it
>       - the one who downloads it... What is his concrete criminal act?
>       
>       It's like writing a book, someone steals it and puts it 
> into public,
>       people grab it and read it. A stupid idea to sue them, 
> for what by the way?
>       
>       Even the leaked Windows source codes got revived and 
> the developer
>       didn't get sued either. There are also parts of windows 
> disassembled and
>       documented (such as the MBR) and no one ever got near to sued.
>       
>       If you scare that already you should not go outside 
> anytime, my risk
>       analysis says that your chances to die thought a flood 
> are higher.
>       
>       You can also simple download it and not telling it 
> anyone (if you
>       haven't done that already out of curiosity), it will be 
> a remaining
>       secret until the end of universe.
>       
>       -mr
>       
>       
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