A sI said, I just installed a FreeDOS machine with those realtec drivers las week,
Using www.netbootdisk.com Alain Em 07-08-2010 17:16, Ulrich Hansen escreveu: > Am 07.08.2010 03:22, schrieb Someone: >> Command line linux is much easier to network than freedos and there is a >> lot of utility to it. > > You are right. There is no doubt that GNU/Linux is much better > equipped for networking than (Free)DOS. GNU/Linux also runs on old > hardware, although it can be difficult (and painfully slow) to > install. Modern installers need a lot of resources. I run Debian (Dual > boot with FreeDOS) on some 486SX with 20 MB RAM so I know something > about that. > >> Companies aren't releasing dos drivers > > This is not necessarily true. Two weeks ago we had a discussion about > drivers for the RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller > in a quite modern Acer Aspire One netbook. As we found out, Realtek > still released ODI (Netware) and NDIS (MS Client for DOS) drivers for > that NIC, so it can be used with shims as packet drivers for > networking in FreeDOS. > > So even when some companies do not release packet drivers for DOS, the > NIC might be still usable. > >> I question whether TCP/IP is the best way to go in a DOS environment. > > You are right. Security is an issue. ftpsrv32.exe for instance - one > of the few FTP servers that exist for DOS - doesn't ask for a password > and opens the whole DOS system for guests. And if you are using WLAN > in DOS, you are limited to 802.11b cards with WEP encryption, which is > insecure per definition. > > On the other hand, most TCP/IP networking software in DOS cannot run > as TSR. It runs fullscreen in the foreground, which is hard to ignore. > So there are no ports unintentionally open. And if you are running a > server in DOS you are at least not running anything else. ;-) > >> For security reasons, most of us probably don't want >> our DOS environments to connect directly to the Net, but for >> gaming purposes, local area networking can be quite fun. > > Gaming is one possible purpose of networking DOS machines. Another > reason may be the need to run old DOS software that has to have > network access. > > But I think the most important reason people have to network (Free)DOS > is simply to be able to exchange data. > > Modern computers don't have floppies, parallel or serial ports. Old > computers don't have USB or SD-cards. Some old computers have CD-Rom > but burning CDs for data exchange can be annoying, as Mike Eriksen > pointed out. > > TCP/IP for DOS has been around since the eighties, so it is the common > ground for old and new hardware, for DOS and a more modern OS. > > Just as example: How do I myself exchange data between FreeDOS on my > old 486SX laptops and my modern Thinkpad running Ubuntu Lucid? By > starting a ftp server in freedos and logging in with filezilla. How > else could I do this? By loading MS Client and creating a shared > directory. > > > How about DOSbox, Virtualbox, and VMWARE nics? Can Freedos use any > > virtual NICS? > > I installed FreeDOS in Virtualbox last week. Virtualbox uses a AMD > PCnet-Fast III card. A free packet driver "pcntpk.com" for this card > is available at: > <http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/amdpd.zip> > > For MS Client you can get the NDIS driver "pcntnd.dos" at: > <ftp://ftp.dlink.com/NIC/de520/Driver/uncompressed/MSLANMAN.DOS/DRIVERS/ETHERNET/PCNTND/> > > In Virtualbox the only way to exchange data between the FreeDOS guest > and the host (Ubuntu in my case) is to create a network: I use the > vbox network adapter in bridged mode. In the FreeDOS guest I run a DOS > server in my LAN (behind a router of course) and connect to it from > the Ubuntu host with filezilla. I also connected the FreeDOS guest > with a scond Virtualbox guest running Windows XP via MS Client in DOS. > > So yes, you are right: TCP/IP and DOS are probably not the best > combination. > And no, you are not right: Networking DOS via TCP/IP is still needed > for many reasons. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by > > Make an app they can't live without > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
