Hi!

In particular: Hi Rugxulo, hi Jim, hi Bret, hi Jerome ;-)

>> CRYNWR - Unknown License, Dropped.
> 
> Uh ... "most" of it should be (intentionally) GPL, but there are still
> some pieces (e.g. RTSPKT.COM) that aren't.

Would be good to have!

>> MPXPLAY - Unknown License, Dropped.
> 
> SF.net lists it as "Other License", which presumably means some kind
> of generic "open source". (Maybe it slipped through the cracks, who
> knows, but I just assume everybody knew what they were doing.)

Good question.

>> UTIL:
>>
>> 4DOS - Listed as Free, No Sources. Kept for now, may get Dropped?
> 
> https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/4dos/
> 
> 4dos800.zip's LICENSE.TXT seems to remind me of (derivative of) BSD 4-clause.

Thanks :-)

> http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=4dos
> 
> "[modified MIT License that does not qualify as open source by OSI;
> non-commercial]"

Good enough for me, we are not the A Whole GNU DOS distro.

>> DOSLFN - Listed as GPL, No License Messages, Keep?
> 
> Debatable. Not honestly sure, which probably means we should be highly
> pessimistic.
> 
> http://adoxa.altervista.org/doslfn/index.html

If you really care, fix the license message? I assume it
simply did come with but did not display the license?

>> GCDROM - Listed as GPL, No Sources, Based on XCDROM, Removed.
> 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/cdrom/gcdrom/

Thanks!

>> MEMTEST - Listed as Freeware, Unknown License, No Sources, Dropped.
> 
> http://ericauer.cosmodata.virtuaserver.com.br/soft/specials/memteste.zip
> 
> But that only contains sources for "A loader for www.Memtest86.com images".
> Not sure what other pieces are needed (nor exactly which ones or how
> to find them).

This thing is ancient. I probably just assembled the loader to work
with some version of MEMTEST that I had around as a binary. As you
remember, MEMTEST is originally designed to be loaded by any boot
menu which can load a Linux kernel and boot menus do not ship with
Linux kernels either. As far as I remember, you simply had to do a
binary concatenation of the MEMTEST loader and the binary, so you
can ship them separately to be nice to the licenses. Note that I do
vaguely remember somebody mailing me years ago that my loader does
no longer support the newer versions of MEMTEST anyway. Which did
not have trivial reasons. Maybe an expert like Bret wants to check?

>> UIDE - Free for non-commercial, Removed.
> 
> Uh, no. AFAIK, none of his variations were ever "non-commercial only"
> (which would neither be "open source" [OSI] nor "Free" [FSF]).
> 
> "
>    XMGR, RDISK, and UIDE are offered at no cost, "as is", "use at your own
>    risk", and with NO warranties, not even the implied warranty of FITNESS
>    for any particular purpose nor of MERCHANTABILITY!
> "
> 
> However, AFAIK, Jim (still) seems to think it would be better
> (overall) if we removed these. I don't personally know of any concrete
> legal reason to do so...

I would like to interpret that as "IF there would be drivers for
CD/DVD and UDMA with sufficient quality, THEN we would prefer to
use those instead of UIDE." However, there are none, so I would
really prefer to keep it! I would also prefer to keep RDISK, as
it is one of the smaller and better RAMDISK drivers. As Jack had
discussed possible (but very unlikely) contamination of XMGR by
him looking at Microsoft HIMEM sources, I agree that we can drop
XMGR. Note that he glanced at the sources AFTER his last update
to XMGR, so only future XMGR updates are actually at risk here.

Jim, are you okay with my interpretation of the current position?
I think it summarizes both off- as well as on-list conclusions.

, only some irrational rants and behavior from
> Jack himself.
> 
>> UMBPCI - Listed as free, No sources, Dropped.

Background are requirements from hardware vendors that he must
not widely distribute sources which do stuff based on "private"
hardware specs, I believe? UMBPCI is kind of cool but it would
be okay to do what Linux does with Microsoft fonts: Offer some
package which helps the user to download them from the vendor,
after showing the appropriate licensing dialogue.
Regards, Eric




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